Rally History (part II) [Archive] - Page 3 (2024)

Juha

26th June 2007, 21:34

Giorgio

27th June 2007, 10:54

Very thanks, ettelbruck!

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

27th June 2007, 10:55

Someone knows.......

5 novembre 1994
Belgium

Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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8 aprile 1994
Belgium

Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ????
groups N - A
european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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?? / ?? / 1994 - 11° Rally de Wallonie

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25-26 marzo 1995
Belgium

45° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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25 marzo 1994
Belgium

44° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

groups N - A
fia european rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

ettelbruck

27th June 2007, 12:13

Someone knows.......

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25-26 marzo 1995
Belgium

45° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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Giorgio

Circuit des Ardennes

24-26.3.1995

(24.3 friday 8 stages, 25.3 21 stages, last started for first car at 22.37)

299,9 km stages

European coeff 5

results I have lost during these years... I have left just a copy nro 40 of AUTOnews.

Infiniti

27th June 2007, 21:29

What about the German Championship 1969?
Is this wright?

1969

07-09.2ADAC WinterfahrtHelmut Bein – Hans Christoph MehmelBMW 2002T
01-02.320. Nordrhein-WestfalenGert Raschig - Wulf BiebingerOpel Commodore GS
13-16.322. Lyon-CharbonnieresJean Vinatier – Marcel CallewaertAlpine Renault A110
22-23.3TrifelsEckhardt Meding – Hans Peter BiechelyOpel Rallye-Kadett
11-13.4HessenGünther Wallrabenstein – Jürgen SacklBMW 2002
30-31.531. WiesbadenHelmut Bein – Hans Christoph MehmelBMW 2002T
05-07.87. Avus?
19-21.9Deutschland BalticVilly Jenssen – Niels Thorning JenssenBMW 2002Ti
26-28.9BavariaRainer Zweibäumer – Günther SchonsBMW 1600 TI
11-12.106. Dusseldorf?

Regards,

Piet

Infiniti

27th June 2007, 22:02

Can someone help me with ERC 1971?

ERC 1 - Rally Routes du Nord Febr.???

1 Bernard Fiorentino – Maurice GelinSimca CG MC
2 D. Lepoutre - D. DufosseAlpine Renault A110 1600.
3 Jean Louis Haxhe – Christian DelferrierDaf 55
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

ERC 2 – 24. Rally Solitude Lyon Charbonnieres 2-5.March

1 Jean Pierre Nicolas – Michel VialAlpine Renault A110
2 Jean François Piot – Jim PorterFord Escort RS 1600
3 Dieter Glemser – Klaus KaiserFord Escort RS
4
5
6 Jean RagnottiOpel kadett
7.
8.
9.
10.

Thanks in advance
Piet

Infiniti

27th June 2007, 22:17

Can someone help me with ERC 1971?

ERC 1 - Rally Routes du Nord Febr.???

1 Bernard Fiorentino – Maurice GelinSimca CG MC
2 D. Lepoutre - D. DufosseAlpine Renault A110 1600.
3 Jean Louis Haxhe – Christian DelferrierDaf 55
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

ERC 2 – 24. Rally Solitude Lyon Charbonnieres 2-5.March

1 Jean Pierre Nicolas – Michel VialAlpine Renault A110
2 Jean François Piot – Jim PorterFord Escort RS 1600
3 Dieter Glemser – Klaus KaiserFord Escort RS
4
5
6 Jean RagnottiOpel kadett
7.
8.
9.
10.

Thanks in advance
Piet

Sorry, I found alreay the results of the second round

januszsz

28th June 2007, 14:52

Can someone help me with ERC 1971?

ERC 2 – 24. Rally Solitude Lyon Charbonnieres 2-5.March

1 Jean Pierre Nicolas – Michel Vial Alpine Renault A110
2 Jean François Piot – Jim Porter Ford Escort RS 1600
3 Dieter Glemser – Klaus Kaiser Ford Escort RS
...
Thanks in advance
Piet
...
4. Guy Chasseuil / Christian Baron -F- Alfa Romeo GTAm
5. Jacques Henry / Etienne Grobot -F- Alpine-Renault A110 1600
6. Jean Ragnotti / Pierre Thimonier -F- Opel Kadett Rallye
7. Reinhard Hainbach / Wulf Biebinger -D- Opel Kadett Rallye
8. Achim Warmbold / Hans Christoph Mehmel -D- Opel Kadett Rallye
9. Michel Pignard / Christine Gicanot -F- Alpine-Renault A110 1600
10. Pierre Maublanc / Daniel Dreyfus -F- BMW 2002 TI

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

28th June 2007, 15:10

Giorgio

28th June 2007, 17:36

Thank you, ettelbruck!

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

28th June 2007, 17:38

Infiniti, i have:

5 febbraio 1971
France

18° Rally Routes du Nord
Start: Lille
Finish: Lille

groups 1-2-3-4-5
fia european rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. Bernard Fiorentino - Maurice Gelin (Simca CG 2200 Coupé)
2. Damien Lepoutre - Dominique Dufossé (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
3. Jean-Louis Haxhe - Christian Delferrier (Daf 55)

cancelled: 1972 / 2003

Best regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

28th June 2007, 17:41

I miss some other results:
1970
Isola d'Elba 2nd-10th
Thank you in advance
Janusz

I have.....

3 aprile 1970
Italy

3° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba - Trofeo Ettore Bettoja
Start: Portoferraio
Finish: Portoferraio

km. 1280
groups 1-2-3-4
cir - campionato italiano rallies

Results:
1. Alcide Paganelli - Domenico Russo (Fiat 124 S)
2. Giuseppe Ceccato - Helmut Eisendle (Fiat 125 S)
3. Giulio Bisulli - Arturo Zanuccoli (Fiat 125)

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19-29 settembre 1970
France

Tour de France Automobile
Start: Nice
Finish: Nice

km. 5200
groups 1-2-3-4-5-6
european rally championship
championnat de france des rallyes

Results:
1. Jean-Pierre Beltoise - Patrick Depailler - Jean Todt (Matra Simca 650)
2. Henri Pescarolo - Jean-Pierre Jabouille - Johnny Rives (Matra Simca 650)
3. Gerard Larrousse - Maurice Gelin (Porsche 911)
4. Guy Chasseuil - Christian Baron (Porsche 911 S)
5. Jacques Rey - Jean-Marie Jacquemin (Porsche 911)

Best regards

Giorgio

jirka rk

29th June 2007, 05:50

dario

29th June 2007, 17:47

[quote="januszsz"]I miss some other results:

1966 Geneve 10th = G. Theiler - E. Bechtel BMC Mini Cooper
1967 Vltava 9th = F. Galle - Muller Trabant 601
1967 Danube 7th = J. Springer - x BMW 1600
8th = Wittig - x Alfa Romeo
9th = Poltinger - x VW 1500
10th = Eschey - x BMW 2002

J have only this
Regards
Dario

januszsz

29th June 2007, 17:59

I miss some other results:

1966 Geneve 10th = G. Theiler - E. Bechtel BMC Mini Cooper
Dario
Ups! I have that crew in 8th. See what I have:
1. Staepelaere/Aerts - Cortina Lotus
2. Fall / Liddon - Mini Cooper S
3. Ogier / Ogier - Panhard 24CT
4. Verrier / Syda - DS 21
5. Bianchi / Vic - DS 21
6. Larrousse / "Biche" - NSU
7. K. Ramu / C. Maurice - ??
8. G. Theiler / E. Bechtel - Mini Cooper
9. P. Lier / ?. Formige - ??
10. ???????
What is your top 10 Dario?
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

29th June 2007, 21:22

Someone knows.......

1950

???? Constantin - ???? Strich
Marcel Lauga - ???? Loevenbruck
Georges Reip - ???? van Cauwenberghe
Jacques Herzet - ???? Baudoin
Yves Lesur - L???? Penchennati
Pierre Stasse - ???? Hermand
???? de Wit - ???? Devis

1954

???? Barbier - ???? Bianchi
"van de Kaart" - ???? Dachelet
???? Evrard - ???? Collignon (Ford)
???? Deisser - ???? Teirlinck (Mercedes)
???? Grisay - ???? van Hove (Simca)
???? Gosselin - ???? Gosselin (Dyna Panhard)
René Cotton - J???? L???? Lemerle

1955

???? Mathieu
???? Mottard
???? Deisser
???? Engel - ???? Straub
???? Driessens - ???? Rebetez

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Infiniti

29th June 2007, 22:15

I miss some other results:
1965 RACE 6th-10th
1966 Geneve 10th
1967 Vltava 9th-10th
1967 Danube 7th-10th
and 1970
Isola d'Elba 2nd-10th
Tulpen 4th-10th
Semperit 4th-10th
Lorraine 4th-10th
Geneve 4th-10th
San Martino 4th-10th
Tour de France 4th-10th
Tour d"Belgique 4th-10th
Thank you in advance
Janusz

Januszsz,

This is what I have. ources are from Auto Year 1970-71.

3. Rally Isola dell’ Isola Elba 3-4 April

1 Alcide Paganelli – Nini RussoFiat 124 Spyder
2 Giuseppe Ceccato – Helmuth EisendleFiat 125S
3 Bisulli – ZanuccoliFiat 125
4 Tecilla – Bruno ScabiniFiat 125S
5 Sonda – TurriFiat 125S
6 Enrico Trombotto – BossolaFiat 124 Spyder
7 Smania – ZanchettiFiat 125S
8 Giubar – ScalabriniFiat 124
9 Squillance – BettiniLancia Fulva
10”Popo” – ZanussiLancia Fulvia HF

22. Tulip Rally 3-9 May

4 Ben Pon – Rob WiedenhoffVolkswagen Beetle 1600
5 Marie Claude Beaumont – FouquetOpel GT
6 Borjesson – SternerOpel Kadett
7 Klause – GodichardRenault Gordini
8 Renger Guliker – SchoonderbeekBMW 2002 TI
9 Sigurdson – Bruno BerglundSaab 96 V4
10 Palmer – SpokesPorsche 911

Semperit wasn’t a selected round of the ERC, according Auto Year 1970-71

17. Rally de Lorraine 21-24 May

4 Jean Claude Barailler – FlavignyAlfa Romeo
5 Claude Ballot-Lena – MorenasPorsche 911
6 Jean Ragnotti – Pierre ThimonierOpel Kadett
7 Maurice Nusbaumer – Jean Louis HervieuAlpine Renault A110
8 Marie Claude Beaumont – GrandriveOpel GT
9 “Pedro” – Eric SymensBMW 2002
10 Palyer – PerierPorsche 911S

38. Rally de Geneve 18-21.Juni

4 Claude Haldi – Eric ChapuisPorsche 911S
5 Sergio Barbasio – Mario ManucciLancia Fulvia HF
6 Jean Ragnotti – Pierre ThimonierOpel Kadett R
7 Palyer – DerollandPorsche 911S
8 Marie Claude Beaumont – FouquetOpel Gt
9 Meier – BianchiPorsche 911R
10 Hanrioud – ChevallierBMW 2002 TI

7. Rally San Martino di Castrozza 28-30 August

4 Alcide Paganelli - Nini RussoFiat 124 Spider
5 Giuseppe Ceccato - Helmuth EisendleFiat 125 S
6 Alberto Smania – BorsettoFiat 125 S
7 "Giampietro" – BorsoiPorsche 911S
8 Besozzi – BrusatiLancia Fulvia HF 1600
9 Luciano Trombotto - Gino MacalusoFiat 124 Spider
10 A. Tecilla - Bruno ScabiniFiat 125 S

15. Tour de Franc 19-27 September

4 Guy Chausseuil – BaronPorsche 911 S
5 Rey – Jean Marie JacqueminPorsche
6 Claude Ballot-Lena – MorenasPorsche 914/6
7 Giorgio Pianta – G.B. AlemaniAlfa Romeo
8 Balas – ImbertPorsche 914/6
9 Pierre Hanrioud – M. ViolletPorsche 911 S
10 Selz – CochetPorsche 911 S

Tour de Belgique 20-22 November

4 Aulicare Ballestrieri – Daniele AudettoLancia Fulvia
5 Tricot – LuxOpel Commodore
6 Sergio Barbasio – Mario ManucciLancia Fulvia
7 Herwig Andrienssens – Antoon DaemersBMW 2002
8 Luciano Trombotto – ZanuccoliFiat 124 Spyder
9 Vanhunessel – DemayPorsche 911 S
10 Didi – LopezFiat 903

Final Championship Points

1 Jean Claude Andruet70
2 Gilbert Staepelaere – André Aerts55
3 Achim Warmbold46
4 Jean Ragnotti – Pierre Thimonier44
5 Wulf Biebinger31
6 Alcide Paganelli – Nini Russo25
7 David Stone23

Infiniti

29th June 2007, 22:31

Does anyone knows?
ERC 1971

ERC 4 – Rally Isola d’ Elba 2-3 April

1 Luciano Trombotto – Maurizio EnricoFiat 124 Spyder
2 F. Tecilla - S. LipizierFiat 125 S
3 Giulio Bisulli - Arturo ZanuccoliFiat 125 S
4
5 Günther JangerVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
6
7
8
9
10

ERC 5 – Circuit of Ireland 9-13 April

1 Adrian Boyd - Beattie CrawfordFord Escort TC
2 Chris Sclater – Martin HolmesFord Escort RS
3 Billy Coleman - Dan O’SullivanFord Escort TC
4 Will Sparrow – Nigel RaeburnBMC Mini 1275 GT
5 B. Lee - J. ColesFord Escort TC
6 L. Jönsson - A. QuistSaab 96 V4
7
8
9
10

Thanks in advanc

Piet

Infiniti

29th June 2007, 22:37

Circuit des Ardennes

24-26.3.1995

(24.3 friday 8 stages, 25.3 21 stages, last started for first car at 22.37)

299,9 km stages

European coeff 5

results I have lost during these years... I have left just a copy nro 40 of AUTOnews.

1. Bernard Munster - Jean François Elst Renault Clio Maxi
2. Bert de Jong - TonHillen Ford Escort RS Cosworth
3. Monin - Quevrain Ford Escort RS Cosworth

Regards,

Piet

Infiniti

29th June 2007, 22:46

And these rounds in the ERC 1971?

ERC 7 - Semperit Rally 3-5 June

1 Sandro Munari – John DavenportLancia Fulvia HF
2
3 Sobieslaw Zasada – JaroszewiczBMW 2002 Tti
4
5
6
7
8 G FischerVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
9 Dr Georg FischerVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
10

ERC 9 – Rally de Genève 16-20 June

1 Jean Pierre Nicolas – Jean TodtAlpine Renault A 110 1600S
2 Jacques Henry – GrobotAlpine Renault A 110 1600S
3 Claude Haldi – Eric ChapuisPorsche 911 S
4
5
6 Bernard Fiorentino – Maurice GelinSimca CG
7
8
9
10

ERC 12 - Danube Rally 12-15 August

1 Gunther Janger - Hans Siebert Volkswagen
2 Sobieslaw Zasada – Marian BienBMW 2002
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

ERC 17 - Thousand Minute Rally 15-17 October

1 Sandro Munari – Mario MannucciLancia Fulvia 1.6 HF
2 Günther Janger - Harald GottliebVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
3
4 Sobieslaw Zasada - Marian BienBMW 2002 Tti
5 Dr Georg Fischer – TazlVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
6 Bisek – NeverlaVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
7
8
9 G Fischer – Hans SiebertVolkswagen Kever 1302S
10

If someone can add some first names, everything is more than welcom

Regards,

Piet

FAL

29th June 2007, 23:10

januszsz

30th June 2007, 08:46

Someone knows.......

1954
PAUL? Barbier - LUCIEN? Bianchi
René Cotton - JEAN LOUIS Lemerle

1955
WERNER Engel - H. Straub

Thanks in advance
Giorgio
That's what I can add
Regard
Janusz

januszsz

30th June 2007, 08:50

Does anyone knows?
ERC 1971

ERC 5 – Circuit of Ireland 9-13 April

1 Adrian Boyd - Beattie CrawfordFord Escort TC
2 Chris Sclater – Martin HolmesFord Escort RS
3 Billy Coleman - Dan O’SullivanFord Escort TC
4 Will Sparrow – Nigel RaeburnBMC Mini 1275 GT
5 B. Lee - J. ColesFord Escort TC
6 L. Jönsson - A. QuistSaab 96 V4
7 Noel Smith - Des Flanagan BMC Mini Cooper S
8 Cecil Vard - Paul Phelan Porsche 911S
9 Mervyn & Harry Johnston BMC Mini Cooper S
10 Greg O'Gorman - L.J. White Ford Escort TC

Thanks in advanc

Piet

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

30th June 2007, 09:12

And these rounds in the ERC 1971?

ERC 7 - Semperit Rally 3-5 June

1 Sandro Munari – John DavenportLancia Fulvia HF
2
3 Sobieslaw Zasada – JaroszewiczBMW 2002 Tti
4
5
6
7
8 G FischerVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
9 Dr Georg FischerVolkswagen Beetle 1302S
10
Here I have completely different order. Who can help us to solve the mystery and fill the blanks?
1. as above
2. Achim Warmbold - Joachim Dörfler BMW 2002TI
3. Reiner Zweibäumer - Wulf Biebinger BMW 2002TI
4-8. ????
9. Sobiesław Zasada - Andrzej Jaroszewicz BMW 2002TI
10.?
ERC 9 – Rally de Genève 16-20 June
I have nothing to add

ERC 12 - Danube Rally 12-15 August

1 Gunther Janger - Hans Siebert Volkswagen
2 Sobieslaw Zasada – Marian BienBMW 2002
3 Walter Pöltinger - Johan=Hans Hartinger Porsche 911S
4 Vic Dietmayer - Hans Peter Moser BMW 2002TI
5 H. Bosch - H. Kohlbacher Mazda RX2
6 Hans Britth - Hans Reppling Opel Kadett Rallye
7 Carl Christian Schindler - Walter Wessiak VW 1302 S
8 Robert Mucha - Błażej Krupa Polski Fiat 125p 1500
9 Ryszard Żyszkowski - Piotr Mystkowski Polski Fiat 125p 1500
10 L. Iancovici - V. Ficiu R8 Gordini

ERC 17 - Thousand Minute Rally 15-17 October

1 Sandro Munari – Mario MannucciLancia Fulvia 1.6 HF
2 Günther Janger - Harald GottliebVolkswagen Beetle 1302S - 2nd I have: Raffaele Pinto - Helmut Eisendle Fiat 124 Spyder and Janger in 3rd
3
4 Sobieslaw Zasada - Marian BienBMW 2002 Tti (I have in 5th and 4th is Luciano Trombotto - Gino Macaluso Fiat 124 Spyder)
6 Dr Gernot* Fischer – Wolfgang TazlVolkswagen Beetle 1302S - *) there were 2 G.Fischers: Georg F. and Dr Gernot F.
6 Bisek – NeverlaVolkswagen Beetle 1302S - I have not that crew at all
7 Georg Malat - Harald Gottlieb VW 1302S
8 Richard Bochnicek - Sepp-Dieter Kernmayer Citroen DS 21
9 Georg Fischer – Hans SiebertVolkswagen Kever 1302S - I have here Walter Lux - Kurt Nestinger Citroen DS21
10 Vic Dietmayer - Hans Peter Moser BMW 200TI
- 1000 Minutes Rally source was the rally site (I don't have it's address at the moment)

If someone can add some first names, everything is more than welcom

Regards,

Piet

I hope my additions are clear
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

30th June 2007, 14:50

Thank you, Janusz !

Giorgio

dario

30th June 2007, 14:57

[quote="januszsz"][quote="dario"]
I have :
1. Staepelaere/Aerts - Cortina Lotus -
2. Fall / Liddon - Mini Cooper S + 50"
3. Ogier / Ogier - Panhard 24CT + 1'08"
4. Verrier / Syda - DS 21 + 1'29"
5. Bianchi / Vic - DS 21 + 2'47"
6. Larrousse / "Biche" - NSU 1100 TT + 3'30"
7. JJ. Thuner / J.Gretener Triumph Spitfire + 4'25"
8. P. Lier / Formige Hillman IMP + 8'31"
9. K. Ramu / C. Maurice Alfa Romeo + 8'49"
10. G. Theiler / E. Bechtel Mini Cooper + 11'14"
11. L. Pointet / J.Fougeray Panhard 24CT + 12'00"
12. H. Kleint / Klapproth Ford Taunus 20M + 13'00"
13. Freeborough / Krauklis Mini Cooper
14. D. Lambart / Zink Opel Kadett Coupè
15. ?
16. G. Klass / R. Wuterich Porsche 911 s + 30'03"
17. ?
18 ?
19 ?
20. B. Culchet / J. Syer Mini Cooper + 38'20"
21. O. Andersson / R. Dalhgren Lancia Flavia Coupè + 38'41"

Retired : P. Hopkirk / Harryman Mini Cooper - R. Neyret / J. Terramorsi DS 21 - R. Trautmann /C. Bouchet Lancia Flavia Coupè

MY source : Autosprint and the old forum

Best regards
Dario

FAL

30th June 2007, 16:13

I have :
1. Staepelaere/Aerts - Cortina Lotus -
2. Fall / Liddon - Mini Cooper S + 50"
3. Ogier / Ogier - Panhard 24CT + 1'08"
4. Verrier / Syda - DS 21 + 1'29"
5. Bianchi / Vic - DS 21 + 2'47"
6. Larrousse / "Biche" - NSU 1100 TT + 3'30"
7. JJ. Thuner / J.Gretener Triumph Spitfire + 4'25"
8. P. Lier / Formige Hillman IMP + 8'31"
9. K. Ramu / C. Maurice Alfa Romeo + 8'49"
10. G. Theiler / E. Bechtel Mini Cooper + 11'14"
11. L. Pointet / J.Fougeray Panhard 24CT + 12'00"
12. H. Kleint / Klapproth Ford Taunus 20M + 13'00"
13. Freeborough / Krauklis Mini Cooper
14. D. Lambart / Zink Opel Kadett Coupè
15. ?
16. G. Klass / R. Wuterich Porsche 911 s + 30'03"
17. ?
18 ?
19 ?
20. B. Culchet / J. Syer Mini Cooper + 38'20"
21. O. Andersson / R. Dalhgren Lancia Flavia Coupè + 38'41"

Retired : P. Hopkirk / Harryman Mini Cooper - R. Neyret / J. Terramorsi DS 21 - R. Trautmann /C. Bouchet Lancia Flavia Coupè

MY source : Autosprint and the old forum

Best regards
Dario

If you want first names:
13. Bob Freeborough/Atis Krauklis
(and you probaly know 20. is Brian Culcheth/Jonstone Syer)

Juha

30th June 2007, 16:19

I have corrected a few errors in the list above an added some first names.

22. Tulip Rally 3-9 May
6 Ruben Börjesson – Marianne SternerOpel Kadett

17. Rally de Lorraine 21-24 May
5 Claude Ballot-Lena – Jean-Claude MorenasPorsche 911
8 Marie Claude Beaumont – Martine de la GrandriveOpel GT

15. Tour de Franc 19-27 September
4 Guy Chasseuil – Christian BaronPorsche 911 S

Tour de Belgique 20-22 November
4 Amilcare Ballestrieri – Daniele AudettoLancia Fulvia
5 René Tricot – Willy LuxOpel Commodore
7 Herwig Andriaenssens – Antoon DaemersBMW 2002
10 "Didi" – LopesFiat 903

Juha

30th June 2007, 16:21

1. Bernard Munster - Jean François Elst Renault Clio Maxi
2. Bert de Jong - TonHillen Ford Escort RS Cosworth
3. Monin - Quevrain Ford Escort RS Cosworth

Regards,

Piet
Didier Monin - Michel Quevrain

januszsz

30th June 2007, 17:53

januszsz

30th June 2007, 17:56

Giorgio

30th June 2007, 19:04

Very Thanks, Juha !

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

30th June 2007, 19:05

Someone knows.......

1956

???? Virton - ???? Berger
???? Schoters - ???? Hansez

1958

Georges Reip - ???? Velge

1959

???? Mottart - ???? Mottart
???? Lhote - ???? di Cocco

1960

Christian Poirot - ???? Guillemin
???? Charly - ???? Chaslin
Georges Hacquin - ???? Jacquemin

1961

???? Ruiters (Alfa Romeo)
???? Marinetto (Porsche)
Roger de Lageneste - ???? Burglin
???? Druylants - ???? Ghellynck
???? Rome - ???? Maillard
???? van den Houte - ???? Harris

1962

Gilbert Staepelaere - ???? Neuwissen
???? Romedene - ???? Rognier

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Giorgio

30th June 2007, 19:29

About Rallye Routes du Nord. I saw it's name in that form: Rallye Chemines Nord. Does anybody know which name is correct?
Regards
Janusz

Is correct: Rallye Routes du Nord

21 maggio 1951
France

1° Rally du Textile
Start: Lille
Finish: Lille

km. 640
touring cars
national rally

Results:
1. Soulary - Campion (Citroen Traction)
2. Jacques Pollet (Simca 8)
3. Guy Lapchin (Dyna Panhard)

first edition - In 1952 change name in "Rallye Routes du Nord"

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1-2 marzo 1952
France

2° Rally Routes du Nord
Start: Lille
Finish: Lille

sport cars - touring cars
national rally

Results:
1. Guy Lapchin - Mme Lapchin (Renault 750 cc)
2. R. Meignen (Dyna Panhard 750 cc)
3. J. Blanchet (Dyna Panhard 750 cc)

Best regards

Giorgio

Juha

30th June 2007, 21:56

That Fiat 903 - what it was? Is it possible that it was Fiat 127 (it has engine's capacity 903ccm).
Thank you all for contribution
Regards
Janusz

I don't know but it seems very likely.

Jarek Z

1st July 2007, 00:46

januszsz

1st July 2007, 10:07

Jarek Z

1st July 2007, 10:22

Giorgio

1st July 2007, 10:37

Someone knows the date of the first edition for the Donau Rally ??

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Carles Bosch 2

1st July 2007, 10:58

Someone knows the date of the first edition for the Donau Rally ??

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

According to my database, the '66 issue was the 3rd...

Carles.

Giorgio

1st July 2007, 18:19

Carles, you have the dates for 1964 and 1965 ?

Giorgio

januszsz

1st July 2007, 18:46

Carles, you have the dates for 1964 and 1965 ?

Giorgio
Here you can see what I found about:
The Rallye of Romania (Raliul Romaniei) Is the most prestigeous romanian rally. At the begining, the route was along the Danube, and the rallye's name was The Danube Rallye-Dacia . Then it changed to The Rallye of Romania. First race was in 1964 and the number of cars was 45. The winner was: at Tourism class - W.Roser-Cr. Staffner(Steyr-Puch), at GT class - F. Herborn-R. Altman (Porsche Carrera) and at Rallye class - A. Hohlheimer - B. Hermann (Fiat 1300). In 1973, Walter Rohrl(Opel Ascona) won this rally ahead of Sandro Munari(Lancia Fulvia HF) and Fiat official team (Fiat 124 Abarth).
First romanian victory was in 1987 (Ludovic Balint-Constantin Zarnescu).
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/4582/sport.htm

Giorgio

1st July 2007, 18:55

Thank you, Janusz !

Best Regards

Giorgio

januszsz

1st July 2007, 18:55

Infiniti

1st July 2007, 20:55

I hope my additions are clear
Regards
Janusz

Many thanks Janusz.

Piet

Infiniti

1st July 2007, 21:25

I hope my additions are clear
Regards
Janusz

Perhaps this will help something.
http://www.rallybugs.com/results.htm

Piet

rmprotune

1st July 2007, 22:00

Giorgio

2nd July 2007, 10:53

Very thanks, Janusz ! you knows if the editions 1972 - 1975 - 1988 are cancelled ?

Best regards

Giorgio

P.S. A document for the edition 1967

Giorgio

2nd July 2007, 10:59

Very thanks, Janusz ! you knows if the editions 1972 - 1975 - 1988 are cancelled ?

Best regards

Giorgio

P.S. A document for the edition 1967:

januszsz

2nd July 2007, 23:56

Very thanks, Janusz ! you knows if the editions 1972 - 1975 - 1988 are cancelled ?
Best regards
Giorgio
P.S. A document for the edition 1967:

Yes, it looks that in 1972, 1975 and 1988 the rally was not held.
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

3rd July 2007, 09:49

Many Thanks, Janusz!

Best regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

3rd July 2007, 09:51

Someone knows.......

1963

Louis Chardin - ???? Pasquier
P. Duperray - G???? Duperray
???? Depaquit - ???? Avril
Georges Hacquin - ???? Heboutte

1964

???? Mordel - ???? Barbara
???? Jitay - ???? Noiret
Louis Chardin - ???? Depalnit
Claude Le Guézec (or Leguézec ???? - Jean Hébert
???? Delaine - ???? Veron (Jaguar)

1965

Jean-Pierre Vandermeersch - R???? Roegiers
???? Vancauwenberghe - Werner Declerck
???? Ommeganck - ???? Meeusen (Innocenti 950 Spider)

1966

???? Dhondt - ???? Vandecaveye
???? Hercot - ???? de Rosée

1967

???? Hervé - Werner Declerck
???? Demarcin - ???? Vloebergs
???? Missine - ???? Vandeputte (Lotus Elan)

1968

"Kycyphroth" (???? ????) - ???? Cypik
???? Vautrin - ???? Huot
???? Piero - ???? Jeantil

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

FAL

3rd July 2007, 14:15

Hello everyone,new to the forums.
I have recently purchassed a 1964 morris mini cooper s sold in germany in march of 64 and the previous owner has told me that the car was entered in the XI Trifels rallye in 1964 .I have the navigators name ( Robert Feist ) USAF officer stationed in Germany at the time ,but I am missing the drivers name and results. Any help with be greatly apricciated . ps the car was entered as G1 and it was white with a black roof with number 44 on the door ,I have also found a pic of the car on the Karussel at Nurburgring. while restoring the car I found a document tucked behind the door card , it is writen in German and I can't make it out bu it says :
AUTOMOBILCLUB VON DETCHLAND
ALLGEMEINER DEUTSCER AUTOMOBIL- CLUB
ONS
OBERSTE NATIONALE SPORTKOMMISSION
FUR DEN AUTOMOBLISPORT
IN DEUTSCHALAND
FRANKFURT A. M., WEISENHUTTENSTRABE 10
nr 2989, rodalben/pfalz ringster.27 dated july 1964

I'm sure someone from Germany with results records will be able to help. I do not speak German but the wording effectively says "German Automobile Club. National Governing Body for Motorsport in Germany". I'm not sure whether the last line is an address or some sort of registration of the car for motorsport.
What engine size is it (1071cc or 970 or 1275)? "Dry" (not Hydrolastic) suspension? If it competed in Group 1 then, the only modifications allowed would have been, I think, a maximum of 2 additional front lights.

jrally

3rd July 2007, 14:48

Happy Birthday, infiniti !

Drink one for me, ok ?

All the best
Regards
jorge

rmprotune

3rd July 2007, 16:31

I'm sure someone from Germany with results records will be able to help. I do not speak German but the wording effectively says "German Automobile Club. National Governing Body for Motorsport in Germany". I'm not sure whether the last line is an address or some sort of registration of the car for motorsport.
What engine size is it (1071cc or 970 or 1275)? "Dry" (not Hydrolastic) suspension? If it competed in Group 1 then, the only modifications allowed would have been, I think, a maximum of 2 additional front lights.

Thanks for replying. the car was built in may 1964, it is has the rubber cone suspension and the engine size is 1275cc with the early dump tube open crankcase breather and the vertical oil cooler under the generator. acording to the chassis number it would be the the 43rd cooper S built with the 1275cc. I've searche for a while now and it seems to me that most of the 1964 info on rallying got swalowed buy the bmc win at monte carlo.

FAL

3rd July 2007, 21:07

Thanks for replying. the car was built in may 1964, it is has the rubber cone suspension and the engine size is 1275cc with the early dump tube open crankcase breather and the vertical oil cooler under the generator. acording to the chassis number it would be the the 43rd cooper S built with the 1275cc. I've searche for a while now and it seems to me that most of the 1964 info on rallying got swalowed buy the bmc win at monte carlo.

OK, that was what was at the back of my mind - that the Cooper S was not hom*ologated in Group 1 until later (1275 only ever was), so "G1" seems likely to refer to a German national class, not the FIA Grouping (which might help narrow it down for anyone who has results). (The oil cooler was not fitted as standard until later either - only just in time for 1966 I think - so if Trifels 64 was an International event, the car ran in Group 2 or 3 of the old Appendix J)

rmprotune

4th July 2007, 08:33

Giorgio

4th July 2007, 09:46

Someone knows.......

1969

???? Deprez - ???? Bertinchamps
???? Onyn - ???? Wauters

1970

Claude Laurent - ???? Milani

1971

Claude Laurent - P???? Hammelrath
Jean-Paul Rieu - ???? Bourguignon
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Loyens

1972

???? Kridel - ???? Brandenburger
Jean-Louis Goblet - ???? Derosée

1974

Rudolf Moortgat - "Andy" (???? ????)
???? Louvay - ???? Hendrickx
???? Darimont - ???? Nys
???? Braillard - Willy Lux
???? Engels - ???? du Bulde

1975

Pierre Rouget - ???? Chonez
Heinz Walter Schewe - ???? Petersen
???? Levaux - ???? Moers

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Juha

4th July 2007, 12:30

1972
Aloys (often mentioned as Ali) Kridel (lux) - Jos Brandenburger (lux)

1974
Willy Braillard (b) - Willy Lux (b)

1975
Jean-Pierre Rouget (fr) - Patrice Chonez (fr)

Giorgio

4th July 2007, 14:21

Very thanks, Juha!

Regards

Giorgio

kyosti

4th July 2007, 19:44

Giorgio

4th July 2007, 20:11

Thank you, Kyosti !

Regards

Giorgio

Infiniti

4th July 2007, 21:28

Happy Birthday, infiniti !

Drink one for me, ok ?

All the best
Regards
jorge

Thanks Jorge, I have done it.
Piet

Giorgio

5th July 2007, 15:20

Someone knows.......

1969
???? Onyn - ???? Wauters

1970
Claude Laurent - ???? Milani

1971
Claude Laurent - P???? Hammelrath
Jean-Paul Rieu - ???? Bourguignon
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Loyens

1972
Jean-Louis Goblet - ???? Derosée

1974
Rudolf Moortgat - "Andy" (???? ????)
???? Louvay - ???? Hendrickx
???? Darimont - Eddy Nijs
???? Engels - ???? du Bulde

1975
Heinz Walter Schewe - ???? Petersen
???? Levaux - ???? Moers

1976
Franz Wittman - ???? Kalnay
???? Verhulst - Georges van Oosten
Willy Plas - ???? Doum
"Gustavson" (Gust de Schryver) - ???? Delangen
???? Verhulst - ???? van den Houtte
???? Lois - ???? Rossi
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Daenen
???? Mallard - ???? de Barsy

1977
???? Stephan - ???? Blanchy
Peter Brink - ???? Ricken
Christian Coeuille - ???? Berthon
Jean-Marie Carron - M???? Schaer

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

FAL

5th July 2007, 16:33

I also have a document wich points out the car was shiped to Great Britain and worked on by Alexander tuning later that year and the engine was rebuilt to G2 specs. possibilaty the oil cooler was installed then???

Just to correct earlier post, a 1275 could possibly have run in Gp1 by April 64. It is a bit before the time I have direct knowledge of! The 64 Monte Carlo winning Cooper S was a 1071 but the 1275 and 970 were both hom*ologated by April 64 in Gp2. Makinen won the Tulip rally in a 1275 in April 64 and I have actually seen a copy of the front page of the 970 hom*ologation papers (but not the 1275) showing that Gp2 hom*ologation was achieved in April. I am pretty sure I have seen other reference to both the 970 and 1275 being hom*ologated at the same time. This was under the version of Appendix J that applied up to 31.12.65. The new Appendix J for 1966 had the same minimum production quantity of 1000 for Gp2 but now required 5000 for Gp1 when 1000 was the previous quantity. These quantities were not checked as closely as they would be now. It is quite possible that hom*ologation (1000) was achieved in April 64 even if production only started in March! I have not seen direct evidence that the 1275 was hom*ologated in Gp1 at the same time as well as Gp2 under the "old" Appendix J but it must have been at some point because Tony Fall made his name in a private 1275 Gp1 car in 1965 European Championship rallies.
It would have been the "dry" suspension - it was under the later Gp1 that only Hydrolastic was allowed (until a re-hom*ologation later allowed it again in Gp2 but not Gp1)..
Alexander was one of countless small UK tuning firms of the period. Modifying it to Gp2 would not necessarily have meant full works spec (Downton engine) and would probably have been head and cam and 1.5 inch SUs in place of 1.25inch. The front panel should show signs of being cut and turned inwards to form the bottom mounting for the oil cooler. Cars fitted with it as standard later on would show a neater fitting.

rmprotune

5th July 2007, 17:56

rmprotune

5th July 2007, 18:20

FAL

5th July 2007, 20:21

the engine build sheet that I have it says: Alexander engeneeringcompany ltd.Haddenham
1.competion pistons,12:1 0.20
2.648 cam with shaler 4 grind 0.17 in/ex, 1 1/2"H4
3.crankshaft ,rods, balanced,oil holes champfered.
4.head milled .020
5. block milled .003
6.3.93 crown and pinion
7.reverse lock-out
8. dunlop R-7 tires
9. roll bar
10.fire extinguisher
11. lower steering column
12. rev counter, 8000 rpm max
the cost was 1200 GBP

Yes, that is race spec, not rally. Even on tarmac the works rally cars would not have used a 648 cam with a 3.9 diff!

Giorgio

7th July 2007, 18:37

Someone knows.......

1976
Franz Wittman - ???? Kalnay
???? Verhulst - Georges van Oosten
Willy Plas - ???? Doum
"Gustavson" (Gust de Schryver) - ???? Delangen
???? Verhulst - ???? van den Houtte
???? Lois - ???? Rossi
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Daenen
???? Mallard - ???? de Barsy

1977
???? Stephan - ???? Blanchy
Peter Brink - ???? Ricken
Christian Coeuille - ???? Berthon
Jean-Marie Carron - M???? Schaer

1978
Henk Vossen - ???? Thomas
Andrej Smolej - ???? Ostmann
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Rorife

1979
Jean-Marie Jacquemin - ???? Destat

1980
Pol Lietaer - ???? Lietaer
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Borremans

1982
???? Everett - Daniel Colebunders
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Droven

1984
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Richard

1985
???? Reginster - ???? Delmelle

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Juha

7th July 2007, 20:11

1978
Jean-Louis Dumont - Robert Rorife

1979
Jean-Marie Jacquemin - Max Destat

1980
Pol Lietaer - Luc Lietaer
Jean-Louis Dumont - Eddy Borremans

1982
Simon Everett - Daniel Colebunders
Jean-Louis Dumont - Philippe Droeven

1984
Jean-Louis Dumont - Raymond Richard

1985
Thierry Reginster - Marc Delmelle

januszsz

7th July 2007, 21:24

Someone knows.......

1978
Andrej Smolej - ???? Ostmann
Giorgio

I think it was WALTER Smolej. I never heard of Andrej Smolej.
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

8th July 2007, 10:57

Very thanks, Juha and Janusz !

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

8th July 2007, 18:35

Someone knows.......

9 aprile 1999
Belgium

?? Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza)
2. David Loix - ???? ???? (Toyota Corolla WRC)
3. Larry Cols - ???? Gérard (Mitsubishi Lancer)

-----------------------------------------------

26 marzo 1999
Belgium

48° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. David Loix - ???? ???? (Toyota Corolla WRC)
2. Pascal Gaban - ???? ???? (Citroen Saxo kit)
3. Xavier Bouche - ???? ???? (Citroen Saxo kit)

-----------------------------------------------------

23 ottobre 1998
Belgium

25° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Kris Princen - ???? ???? (Renault Mégane)
3. François Delecour - ???? ???? (Ford Escort WRC)

---------------------------------------------

5 novembre 1994
Belgium

?? Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

8th July 2007, 20:29

Someone knows.......

9 aprile 1999
Belgium

14. Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - EDDY VAN DER PLUYM (Subaru Impreza 555)
2. David Loix - JEAN-FRANCOIS ELST (Toyota Corolla WRC)
3. Larry Cols - PASCAL LOPES (Mitsubishi Lancer)

-----------------------------------------------

26 marzo 1999
Belgium

48° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. David Loix - JEAN-FRANCOIS ELST (Toyota Corolla WRC)
2. Pascal Gaban - EDDY CHEVAILLIER (Citroen Saxo kit)
3. Xavier Bouche - ???? CLAES (Citroen Saxo kit)

-----------------------------------------------------

23 ottobre 1998
Belgium

25° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - JEAN-FRANCOIS ELST (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Kris Princen - ???? GENTEN (Renault Mégane)
3. François Delecour - DANIEL GRATALOUP (Ford Escort WRC)

---------------------------------------------

5-6 novembre 1994
Belgium

21. Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
championnat des rallyes de belgique

Results:
1. ANDREA AGHINI - SAURO FARNOCCHIA (TOYOTA CELICA TURBO 4WD)
2. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
3. RENAUD VERREYDT - GEORGES BIAR (TOYOTA CELICA GT-FOUR)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

9th July 2007, 08:45

Fantastic, Janusz! Very thanks...

Regards

Giorgio

Juha

9th July 2007, 10:24

9-10 aprile 1999
Belgium

14. Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Jalhay
Finish: Jalhay

-----------------------------------------------

26-27 marzo 1999
Belgium

48° Circuit des Ardennes

3. Xavier Bouche - V. CLAES (Citroen Saxo kit)

-----------------------------------------------------

25° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

Results:
2. Kris Princen - LILY GENTEN (Renault Mégane)

---------------------------------------------

5-6 novembre 1994

21. Rally du Condroz

Results:
1. ANDREA AGHINI - SAURO FARNOCCHIA (TOYOTA CELICA TURBO 4WD)
3. RENAUD VERREYDT - GEORGES BIAR (TOYOTA CELICA GT-FOUR)

Verreydt and Aghini had identical cars, a Celica turbo 4WD, no GT4. ;)

kyosti

9th July 2007, 12:38

Someone knows.......

1969

???? Deprez - ???? Bertinchamps
???? Onyn - ???? Wauters

1970

Claude Laurent - ???? Milani

1971

Claude Laurent - PHILIPPE Hammelrath
Jean-Paul Rieu - ???? Bourguignon
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Loyens

1972

Kridel - ???? Brandenburger
Jean-Louis Goblet - ???? Derosée

1974

Rudolf Moortgat - "Andy" (???? ????)
???? Louvay - GUY Hendrickx
HENRI Darimont - ???? Nys

???? Braillard - Willy Lux
ROGER Engels - ???? du Bulde

1975

Pierre Rouget - ???? Chonez
Heinz Walter Schewe - PETER Petersen
???? Levaux - ???? Moers

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Greetings from Ypres

kyosti

9th July 2007, 12:47

kyosti

9th July 2007, 12:57

Giorgio

9th July 2007, 17:56

Very thanks, Juha and kyosti !

Best regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

10th July 2007, 09:32

Someone knows.......

8 aprile 1994
Belgium

Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------------------

25 marzo 1994
Belgium

44° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------------------

18 febbraio 1994
Belgium

?? Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. François Chatriot - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Dominique Bruyneel - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
3. Marc Timmers - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza)

------------------------------------

?? / ?? / 1993 - 10° Rally de Wallonie
?? / ?? / 1994 - 11° Rally de Wallonie

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

10th July 2007, 11:29

Someone knows.......

8 aprile 1994
Belgium

9. Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ???
groups N - A
european rally championship - coeff. 2
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. POUL? LIETAER - GEERT DERAMMELAERE (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------------------

25 marzo 1994
Belgium

44° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------------------

18 febbraio 1994
Belgium

37. Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
championnat des rallyes de belgique
international rally

Results:
1. François Chatriot - DENIS GIRAUDET (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Dominique Bruyneel - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF Integrale)
3. Marc Timmers - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza)

------------------------------------

?? / ?? / 1993 - 10° Rally de Wallonie
?? / ?? / 1994 - 11° Rally de Wallonie

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
regards
Janusz

Giorgio

10th July 2007, 15:00

Very thanks, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

FAL

10th July 2007, 16:38

Lietaer first name:
Paul in French
Pol in Flemish

Juha will be able to correct if I am wrong.

kyosti

10th July 2007, 16:55

Lietaer first name:
Paul in French
Pol in Flemish

Juha will be able to correct if I am wrong.

Its PAUL, not Pol.
And he is Flemish!

kyosti

10th July 2007, 17:21

regards
Janusz

HF 94
1 Lietaer
2 Verreydt Jamar Ford ERSC GrA8
3 Bruyneel Fortin Lancia D I GrA8

CDA

1 Snijers
2 Verreydt Jamar Ford A8
3 Munster Elst Renault C A7

Giorgio

10th July 2007, 19:54

Thank you, Kyosti!

Regards

Giorgio

kyosti

10th July 2007, 21:00

kyosti

10th July 2007, 21:03

kyosti

10th July 2007, 21:43

[quote="Giorgio"]Someone knows.......

1976
Franz Wittman - ???? Kalnay
RAOEL Verhulst - Georges van Oosten
Willy Plas - "Doum"
"Gustavson" (AUGUST de Schryver) - ???? DELANGHE
???? Verhulst - ???? van den Houtte
???? Lois - ???? Rossi
"Chavan" (Charles van Stalle) - ???? Daenen
???? Mallard - ???? de Barsy

1977
???? Stephan - ???? Blanchy
Peter Brink - Dr ERHARD Ricken
Christian Coeuille - YVAN Berthon
Jean-Marie Carron - M???? Schaer

1978
Henk Vossen - ???? Thomas
Andrej Smolej - ???? Ostmann
Jean-Louis Dumont - ROBERT Rorife

1979
Jean-Marie Jacquemin - ???? Destat

1980
PAUL Lietaer - LUC Lietaer
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Borremans

1982
SIMON Everett - Daniel Colebunders
Jean-Louis Dumont - PHILIPPE DROEVEN

1984
Jean-Louis Dumont - ???? Richard

1985
THIERY Reginster - ???? Delmelle

Maybe some more names tomorrow

FAL

10th July 2007, 21:45

he is Flemish!

I am well aware of that. I have driven in the same rallies as him.
What it isn't is "Poul" in above post. It's because I have seen it written as "Pol" so much lately that I was asking someone from Belgium if this was so. It always used to be written in Paul in either region of Belgium.

Juha

11th July 2007, 01:13

Giorgio

11th July 2007, 15:39

Thank you, kyosti and Juha!

Regards

Giorgio

kyosti

11th July 2007, 19:19

kyosti

11th July 2007, 19:36

kyosti

11th July 2007, 19:45

Juha

11th July 2007, 20:35

Giorgio

12th July 2007, 10:47

Thank you kyosti !

Giorgio

Giorgio

12th July 2007, 10:49

Someone knows.......

13 novembre 1993
Belgium

?? Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

--------------------------------------

26 marzo 1993
Belgium

?? Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------------

5 febbraio 1993
Belgium

?? Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------

Dates (day, month, year) for Rallye des Hautes fa*gnes
1986 (first edition ??)
1987
1988
1990
1993
1995
1996
2001
2002
2003
2004

--------------------------

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

12th July 2007, 11:43

Someone knows.......
13 novembre 1993
Belgium
20. Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy
km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
belgian rally championship
Results:
1. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
--------------------------------------
26 marzo 1993
Belgium
43. Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant
km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally
Results:
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
---------------------------------
5 febbraio 1993
Belgium
36. Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa
km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally
Results:
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
---------------------------
Dates (day, month, year) for Rallye des Hautes fa*gnes
1986 (first edition ??)
1987
1988
1990
1993
1995 - 10TH EDITION 21-22.04
1996 - 11TH EDITION 12-13.04
2001 - 16TH EDITION
2002 - 17TH EDITION
2003 - 18TH EDITION
2004 - 19TH EDITION
--------------------------
Thanks in advance
Giorgio

Regards
Janusz

Juha

12th July 2007, 11:53

januszsz

12th July 2007, 12:00

januszsz

12th July 2007, 12:02

Juha

12th July 2007, 12:02

13 novembre 1993
20. Rally du Condroz
1. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
2. MARC DUEZ - DENIS GIRAUDET (TOYOTA CELICA 4WD)

--------------------------------------

26 marzo 1993
43. Circuit des Ardennes
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
2. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT COSWORTH)

---------------------------------

5 febbraio 1993
36. Boucles de Spa
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
2. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT COSWORTH)

Juha

12th July 2007, 12:03

Ups! I had it on my ERC list just to 2000, I thought after that date it went as a national event. Giorgio asked about next years I simply named them using consecutive names.
Regards
Janusz

Not even as a national event. It was restarted in 2003 under a different name but it's not on the national calendar as it's a small (but very popular) rally.

Giorgio

12th July 2007, 18:28

Very thanks for the help, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

12th July 2007, 18:32

Thank you, Juha for the results and the precise informations for the last edition.... you knows the date for the first edition (Rallye Hautes fa*gnes)...
is possible 1986 ?

Regards

Giorgio

januszsz

12th July 2007, 19:08

13-14 novembre 1993
20. Rally du Condroz
1. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT RS COSWORTH)
2. MARC DUEZ - DENIS GIRAUDET (TOYOTA CELICA 4WD)
3. JAN MORTENSEN - ?. MOGENSEN (FORD ESCORT COSWORTH)

--------------------------------------

26-27 marzo 1993
43. Circuit des Ardennes
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
2. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT COSWORTH)
3. ROBERT DROOGMANS - RONY JOOSTEN (FORD ESCORT COSWORTH)

---------------------------------

5-7 febbraio 1993
36. Boucles de Spa
1. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS - WILLY LUX (NISSAN SUNNY GTI-R)
2. PATRICK SNIJERS - DANY COLEBUNDERS (FORD ESCORT COSWORTH)
3. BRUNO THIRY - STEPHANE PREVOT (OPEL ASTRA GSI)

Regards
Janusz

Juha

12th July 2007, 23:45

Juha

12th July 2007, 23:52

Thank you, Juha for the results and the precise informations for the last edition.... you knows the date for the first edition (Rallye Hautes fa*gnes)...
is possible 1986 ?

Regards

Giorgio

I don't know, information about smaller rallies of that period is very rare unfortunately.

Giorgio

13th July 2007, 12:10

Very thanks, Janusz !

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

13th July 2007, 12:14

Thank you, Juha !

Giorgio

Giorgio

13th July 2007, 12:40

Someone knows.......

26 settembre 1992
Belgium

?? Van Looi Rally
Start: Tessenderi
Finish: Tessenderi

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
2. Marc Soulet - Jean-Marc Fortin (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
3. ???? Min - ???? Lambert (Mitsubishi Galant VR4)

--------------------

10-11 aprile 1992 - 7° Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes nationaux
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------------------------

7 febbraio 1992
Belgium

Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica GT4)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------

15 marzo 1991
Belgium

Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Marc Soulet - Jean-Marc Fortin (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
3. Philippe Camandona - ???? Jamoul (Ford Sierra Cosworth)

--------------------------------------

?? / ?? / 1991 - 8° Rally de Wallonie
?? / ?? / 1992 - 9° Rally de Wallonie

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Juha

13th July 2007, 12:49

26 settembre 1992
Belgium

?? Van Looi Rally
Start: Tessenderi
Finish: Tessenderi

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
2. Marc Soulet - Jean-Marc Fortin (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
3. Nicolas Min - Joseph Lambert (Mitsubishi Galant VR4)

---------------------------------------------

7 febbraio 1992
Belgium

Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - Georges Biar (Toyota Celica GT4)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------

15 marzo 1991
Belgium

Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Marc Soulet - Jean-Marc Fortin (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
3. Philippe Camandona - Roger Jamoul (Ford Sierra Cosworth)

I'll have a look for the others results in the afernoon.

januszsz

13th July 2007, 13:10

[quote="Juha"]
7 febbraio 1992
Belgium
Boucles de Spa
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5

15 marzo 1991
Belgium
Circuit des Ardennes
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
QUOTE]

Giorgio

13th July 2007, 20:54

Very thanks, juha and janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

Juha

13th July 2007, 23:48

kyosti

14th July 2007, 14:38

1991 Belgisch Internationaal Rallykampioenschap

OK-BOUCLES DE SPA
11ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Patrick SNIJERSDanny COLEBUNDERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Renaud VERREYDTGeorges BIARB/BToyota Celica GT4A
3Marc SOULETJean-Marc FORTINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
4Jean-Pierre MILISSENFRANCEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
5Marc TIMMERSTheo ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
6Guy COLSOULBORREMANSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
7Bernard MUNSTERVERHEYDENB/BOpel Corsa GSIA
8HOLLEBECQFREREB/BMazda323 Formule 4
9SVANHOLT REIDLDK/DKVolkswagen Golf GTI
10Frank BROEKAERTSteven VERGALLEB/BMazda323 Formule 4

OK-CIRCUIT DES ARDENNES
21ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Patrick SNIJERSDanny COLEBUNDERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Marc SOULETJean-Marc FORTINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
3Philippe CAMANDONAJAMOULCH/CFord Sierra RS CosworthA
4Bruno THIRYPREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
5Chiel BOSHILLENNL/NLLancia Delta IntegraleA
6Jean-Pierre MILISSENFRANCEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
7Bernard MUNSTERVERHEYDENB/BOpel Corsa GSIA
8Erwin DOCTORBADENBERGNL/NLOpel Kadett GSIA
9Werner BROUWERSVAN DE KIMMENADEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
10Koen VINKKRIEGERNL/NLMitsubishi Galant VR4N

OK-Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
11ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Marc DUEZKlaus WICHAB/DToyota Celica GT4A
2Patrick SNIJERSDanny COLEBUNDERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
3Marc SOULETJean-Marc FORTINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
4Bruno THIRYPREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
5Werner BROUWERSBROUWERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
6Marc TIMMERSTheo ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
7Jean-Pierre MILISSENFRANCEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
8COUWBERGHSDanny DECANCKB/BLancia Delta Integrale
9Jos BOONPAUWELSB/BMazda323 GTX
10Guy COLSOULOswald BACKESB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N

OK- HASPENGOUW RALLY
31ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Patrick SNIJERSDanny COLEBUNDERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Renaud VERREYDTGeorges BIARB/BToyota Celica GT4A
3Marc SOULETJean-Marc FORTINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
4Bruno THIRYPREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
5Jean-Pierre MILISSENFRANCEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
6Werner BROUWERSBROUWERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
7Jarmo KYTOLETHOKAPANENSF/SFOpel Kadett GSI
8Marc TIMMERSHubert ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
9Frank MESUREGeert DERAMMELAEREB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4
10Mike DOUGHTYRoger FREEMANGB/GBFord Sierra Cosworth

24 Uren van IEPER
41ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Patrick SNIJERSDanny COLEBUNDERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Robert DROOGMANSRonny JOOSTENB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
3Bruno THIRYPREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
4Marc TIMMERSHubert ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
5Gaby GOUDEZEUNEDE PELSEMAEKERB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
6Gerard MAGNIETTELuc MANSETB/BBMW M3A
7Bernard MUNSTERWilly LUXB/BOpel Corsa GSIA
8David METCALFEIan GRINDRODGB/GBOpel Corsa GSIA
9Guy COLSOULRonny DERUYTERB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
10Kurt VICTORNEVEJANSB/BBMW M3A

OMLOOP VAN VLAANDEREN
71ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Ivan VIANEDEWULFB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Omer SAELENSCASTELEINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
3Bruno THIRYPREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
4Chiel BOSHILLENNL/NLLancia Delta IntegraleA
5Paul LIETAERDEMAEGDB/BFord Sierra RS CosworthA
6VANHEEKMOLKENBOERNL/NLBMW M3A
7Marc SOULETJean-Marc FORTINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
8Erwin DOCTORBADENBERGNL/NLOpel Kadett GSIA
9Gerard MAGNIETTELuc MANSETB/BBMW M3A
10Paul LIETAERDEMAEGDB/BFord Sierra RS CosworthA

OK- Rally de Wallonie
81ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Marc SOULETJean-Marc FORTINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Gaby GOUDEZEUNEDE PELSEMAEKERB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
3Paul LIETAERDEMAEGDB/BFord Sierra RS CosworthA
4Philippe CAMANDONAJAMOULCH/CFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
5Marc TIMMERSHubert ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
6Gerard MAGNIETTELuc MANSETB/BBMW M3A
7COUWBERGHSDanny DECANCKB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4
8Freddy LOIXDE CLERCKB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
9Vital BUDOAndré MALAISB/BRenault Clio 16SA
10VAN DER HEYDENCLAESENB/BOpel Kadett GSI

-CONDROZ RALLY
91ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Patrick SNIJERSDanny COLEBUNDERSB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Renaud VERREYDTGeorges BIARB/BToyota Celica GT4A
3Marc DUEZKlaus WICHAB/DToyota Celica GT4A
4Guy COLSOULRonny DERUYTERB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
5MATTONHABRAN B/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4
6COUWBERGHSDanny DECANCKB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4
7JAMARMEERTB/BNissan Sunny GTI
8Frank MESUREGeert DERAMMELAEREB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4
9Philippe CAMANDONAJAMOULCH/CFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
10Michel LIZINRobert RORIFEB/BOpel Kadett GSI

OK-Final standings
1ste Pilote2de PiloteNatCarGr
1Patrick SNIJERSDany COLEBUNDERSB/BToyota Celica GT4A
2Bruno THIRYPREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
3Marc SOULETJean-Marc FORTINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
4Marc TIMMERSHubert ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
5Jean-Pierre MILISSENFRANCE / BOUCHATB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N

Giorgio

14th July 2007, 15:29

Fantastic, Kyosti ! Very thanks..

Best regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

14th July 2007, 17:45

Kyosti, you knows the dates and if are valid for ERC ?

?? / ?? / 1991 - 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
?? / ?? / 1991 - Rally du Condroz

Regards

Giorgio

kyosti

15th July 2007, 08:58

Kyosti, you knows the dates and if are valid for ERC ?

10-12 / 05 / 1991 - 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
8-10 / 11 / 1991 - Rally du Condroz

Regards

Giorgio

Please

januszsz

15th July 2007, 12:20

Kyosti, you knows the dates and if are valid for ERC ?

?? / ?? / 1991 - 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
?? / ?? / 1991 - Rally du Condroz

Regards

Giorgio

Both rallies ERC coeff 5
Janusz

kyosti

15th July 2007, 12:28

januszsz

15th July 2007, 12:29

7 febbraio 1992
Belgium
Boucles de Spa
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - Georges Biar (Toyota Celica GT4)
2. MARC SOULET - JEAN MARC FORTIN (FORD SIERRA COSWORTH 4X4)
3. BRUNO THIRY - STEPHANE PREVOT (OPEL KADETT GSI)

15 marzo 1991
Belgium
Circuit des Ardennes
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5

Regards
Janusz

NoelCollings

15th July 2007, 14:18

Can someone help me with the following:

The competition numbers for Colin McRae and Kenneth Eriksson on the 1st 555 China Rally in 1997

Who the first ever Impreza WRC (chassis number 001 P 555 WRC) was sold to by Prodrive

Thanks

Noel

Giorgio

15th July 2007, 16:04

Very thanks, Janusz and Kyosti!

Regards

Giorgio

januszsz

15th July 2007, 16:37

Can someone help me with the following:

The competition numbers for Colin McRae and Kenneth Eriksson on the 1st 555 China Rally in 1997

Who the first ever Impreza WRC (chassis number 001 P 555 WRC) was sold to by Prodrive

Thanks

Noel
Colin No 1, Kenneth No 3.
Regards
Janusz

NoelCollings

16th July 2007, 19:26

Juha

16th July 2007, 22:30

BOUCLES DE SPA
6Guy COLSOULEddy BORREMANSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
9Tim SVANHOLT REIDLDK/DKVolkswagen Golf GTI

CIRCUIT DES ARDENNES
3Philippe CAMANDONARoger JAMOULCH/BFord Sierra RS CosworthA
4Bruno THIRYStéphane PREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
5Chiel BOSTon HILLENNL/NLLancia Delta IntegraleA
6Jean-Marie MILISSENFRANCEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
8Erwin DOCTORTheo BADENBERGNL/NLOpel Kadett GSIA
9Werner BROUWERSHedi VAN DE KIMMENADEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
10Coen VINKKRIEGERNL/NLMitsubishi Galant VR4N

Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
7Jean-Marie MILISSENFRANCEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
8Bart COUWBERGHSDanny DECANCKB/BLancia Delta Integrale

HASPENGOUW RALLY
5Jean-Marie MILISSENFRANCEB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4N
7Jarmo KYTOLETHOArto KAPANENSF/SFOpel Kadett GSI
8Marc TIMMERSTheo ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N

24 Uren van IEPER
4Marc TIMMERSTheo ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
5Gaby GOUDEZEUNEFilip DE PELSEMAEKERB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A

OMLOOP VAN VLAANDEREN - find the error in this one :D
1Ivan VIANERoland DEWULFB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
2Omer SAELENSJacques CASTELEINB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
3Bruno THIRYPREVOTB/BOpel Kadett GSIA
4Chiel BOSTon HILLENNL/NLLancia Delta IntegraleA
5Paul LIETAERHerman DEMAEGDB/BFord Sierra RS CosworthA
8Erwin DOCTORTheo BADENBERGNL/NLOpel Kadett GSIA
10Paul LIETAERHerman DEMAEGDB/BFord Sierra RS CosworthA

OK- Rally de Wallonie
2Gaby GOUDEZEUNEFilip DE PELSEMAEKERB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
3Paul LIETAERHerman DEMAEGDB/BFord Sierra RS CosworthA
4Philippe CAMANDONARoger JAMOULCH/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A
5Marc TIMMERSTheo ULENSB/BMitsubishi Galant VR4N
7Bart COUWBERGHSDanny DECANCKB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4

CONDROZ RALLY
5Yves MATTONHABRAN B/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4
6Bart COUWBERGHSDanny DECANCKB/BFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4
7Patrick JAMARDavy MEERTB/BNissan Sunny GTI
9Philippe CAMANDONARoger JAMOULCH/CFord Sierra Cosworth 4x4A

Giorgio

17th July 2007, 08:50

Someone knows.......

9 novembre 1990
Belgium

17° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------------------------

?? / ?? / 1990
Belgium

?? Van Looi Rally
Start: Tessenderi
Finish: Tessenderi

km. ???
groups N - A
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. Bruno Thiry - ???? ???? (Opel Kadett GSI)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

--------------------------

25 maggio 1990
Belgium

?? 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

?? / ?? / 1990
Belgium

7° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
belgian rally championship
national rally

Results:
1. Marc Duez - ???? Bozet (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------

16 marzo 1990
Belgium

40° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

17th July 2007, 11:54

Someone knows.......

9 novembre 1990
17° Rally du Condroz
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. PATRICK SNIJERS / DANY COLEBUNDERS TOYOTA CELICA GT-4

25 maggio 1990
?? 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
fia european rally championship - coeff 5
Results:
1. MARC DUEZ / YVES BOZET FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH

7° Rally de Wallonie
Results:
1. Marc Duez - YVES Bozet (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)

16 marzo 1990
40° Circuit des Ardennes
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
Results:
1. MARC DUEZ / YVES BOZET FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH

Giorgio
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

17th July 2007, 17:05

Thank you, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

januszsz

17th July 2007, 19:05

Someone knows.......

9 novembre 1990
Belgium

17° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. PATRICK SNIJERS / DANY COLEBUNDERS TOYOTA CELICA GT-4
2. ROBERT DROOGMANS / RONY JOOSTEN - LANCIA DELTA INTEGRALE
3. MARC DUEZ / YVES BOZET FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH

---------------------------------------------

29-30.09.1990
Belgium

Van Looi Rally
Start: Tessenderi
Finish: Tessenderi

km. ???
groups N - A
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. Bruno Thiry - DANY DELVAUX (Opel Kadett GSI)

25 maggio 1990
Belgium

?? 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ???
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff 5
international rally

Results:
1. MARC DUEZ / YVES BOZET - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
2. BRUNO Thiry / DANY DELVAUX - OPEL KADETT GSI
3. MARC TIMMERS / STEPHANE PREVOT - MITSUBISHI GALANT VR-4 (N)

------------------------------------

12-14.10. 1990
Belgium

7° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
belgian rally championship
national rally

Results:
1. Marc Duez - YVES Bozet (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
---------------------------

16 marzo 1990
Belgium

40° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally

Results:
1. MARC DUEZ / YVES BOZET - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
2. GREGOIRE DE MEVIUS / WILLY LUX - BMW M3
3. RENAUD VERREYDT - GEORGES BIAR - TOYOTA CELICA GT-4

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
I found more while at home.
Janusz

Giorgio

17th July 2007, 20:29

Fantastic, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

Juha

18th July 2007, 10:47

Januszsz, would you have the top 10 from the Haspengouw 1990?

Thanks, Juha

januszsz

18th July 2007, 14:14

Januszsz, would you have the top 10 from the Haspengouw 1990?

Thanks, Juha
Probably yes and probably no first names. I'll send it the evening.
Janusz

januszsz

18th July 2007, 16:44

Januszsz, would you have the top 10 from the Haspengouw 1990?

Thanks, Juha

1. MARC DUEZ / YVES BOZET - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
2. BRUNO Thiry / DANY DELVAUX - OPEL KADETT GSI
3. MARC TIMMERS / STEPHANE PREVOT - MITSUBISHI GALANT VR-4 (N)
4. IVAN VIAENE / ROLAND DUWOLF - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
5. JAKAE / WOELANDERS - OPEL CORSA GSI
6. CHIEL BOS / REUEINGS - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH (N)
7. PHILIPPE BUGALSKI / DENIS GIRAUDET - RENAULT 5 GT TURBO (N)
8. PAUL LIETAER / HERMAN DE MAEGD - OPEL CORSA GSI
9. DE BORCK / COMINGS - RENAULT 5 GT TURBO (N)
10. VITAL BUDO / ANDRE MALAIS - VW RALLYE GOLF G60
That's it. Maybe somebody can add missing first names.
Janusz

januszsz

18th July 2007, 17:51

januszsz

18th July 2007, 18:06

Looking for following ERC results:

Sorry it was the wrong list. The right one is:
RACE (Spain) 1965 6th-10th
Vltava (Moldau) 1967 10th
Danube (Donnau) 1967 7th-10th (missing co-drivers)
Semperit 1970 4th-10th
Routes du Nord 1971 4th-10th
Elba 1971 4th-10th
Semperit 1971 4th-10th
Geneve 1971 4th-10th
Coupe des Alpes 1971 3rd-10th
San Martino di Castrozza 1971 5th-10th
Tour de France 1971 4th-10th
Costa Brava 1972 4th-10th
Neige et Glace 1972 4th-10th
Lyon-Charboniierres 1972 6th-10th
Pneumant 1972 4th-10th
Firestone 1972 4th-10th
Elba 1972 4th-10th
Scottish 1972 7th-10th
Semperit 1972 4th-10th
San Martino di Castrozza 1972 4th-10th
Tour de France 1972 4th-10th
Baltic 1972 4th-10th
YU 1972 4th-10th
RACE Spain 1972 4th-10th
Tour de Belgique 1972 4th-10th

Thank you in advance
Janusz

Giorgio

18th July 2007, 20:26

I have:

28-30 maggio 1970 - 14° Rally Bodensee - Neusiedlersee (in 1971 Semperit)
4. Neger - Sternecker (BMW 2002)
5. Zelenka - Zelenka (Ford Escort)

-----------------------------------

21 giugno 1971
France

Coupe des Alpes
Start: Marseille
Finish: Marseille

km. 2340
grand touring cars - touring cars - prototypes
international championship for makes
internationa rally

Results:
1. Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahé (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
2. Jean Vinatier - Lucette Pointet (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
3. Jean François Piot - Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS 1800)
4. René Trautmann - Leyssieux (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600)
5. Jacques Henry - Etienne Grobot (Renault Alpine A110 1600)

last edition

---------------------------------------------

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

18th July 2007, 21:19

17-25 settembre 1971
France

Tour de France Automobile
Start: Nice
Finish: Nice

km. 5200
groups 1-2-3-4-5-6
european rally championship
championnat de france des rallyes - coeff. 12
international rally

Results:
1. Gérard Larrousse - Johnny Rives (Matra Simca MS 650 spider)
2. José Juncadella - Jean-Pierre Jabouille - Jean-Claude Guénard (Ferrari 512 M)
3. Claude Ballot-Léna - Jean-Claude Morenas (Porsche 911 S 2400)
4. Vic Elford - Max Kingsland (Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB4)
5. Jean-Marie Jacquemin - R. Mercier (Porsche 911 S 2400)
6. Tony Fall - Mike Wood (BMW 2002 TI)
7. Jean-François Piot - Jim Porter (Ford Capri RS)
8. Ennio Bonomelli - Christine Beckers (Porsche 911 S 2400)
9. Jean Egreteaud - J. Boissonet (Porsche 911 S 2200)
10. Jean-Claude Andruet - Claude Roure (Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB4)

Regards

Giorgio

FAL

18th July 2007, 22:40

Sorry it was the wrong list. The right one is:
RACE (Spain) 1965 6th-10th
Vltava (Moldau) 1967 10th
Danube (Donnau) 1967 7th-10th (missing co-drivers)
Semperit 1970 4th-10th
Routes du Nord 1971 4th-10th
Elba 1971 4th-10th
Semperit 1971 4th-10th
Geneve 1971 4th-10th
Coupe des Alpes 1971 3rd-10th
San Martino di Castrozza 1971 5th-10th
Tour de France 1971 4th-10th
Costa Brava 1972 4th-10th
Neige et Glace 1972 4th-10th
Lyon-Charboniierres 1972 6th-10th
Pneumant 1972 4th-10th
Firestone 1972 4th-10th
Elba 1972 4th-10th
Scottish 1972 7th-10th
Semperit 1972 4th-10th
San Martino di Castrozza 1972 4th-10th
Tour de France 1972 4th-10th
Baltic 1972 4th-10th
YU 1972 4th-10th
RACE Spain 1972 4th-10th
Tour de Belgique 1972 4th-10th

Thank you in advance
Janusz

Scottish 72. It's always embarrassing when I don't have results when I was in the entry list. Here's a photo of our service crew instead!! (Even when in Scotland, the English make tea).

Juha

18th July 2007, 23:55

1. MARC DUEZ / YVES BOZET - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
2. BRUNO Thiry / DANY DELVAUX - OPEL KADETT GSI
3. MARC TIMMERS / STEPHANE PREVOT - MITSUBISHI GALANT VR-4 (N)
4. IVAN VIAENE / ROLAND DUWOLF - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
5. JAKAE / WOELANDERS - OPEL CORSA GSI
6. CHIEL BOS / REUEINGS - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH (N)
7. PHILIPPE BUGALSKI / DENIS GIRAUDET - RENAULT 5 GT TURBO (N)
8. PAUL LIETAER / HERMAN DE MAEGD - OPEL CORSA GSI
9. DE BORCK / COMINGS - RENAULT 5 GT TURBO (N)
10. VITAL BUDO / ANDRE MALAIS - VW RALLYE GOLF G60
That's it. Maybe somebody can add missing first names.
Janusz

Thanks!

Now I have the top from 75 up to 90. Would you have 91 too? I only have the first seven. I need 73 and 74 too that's a bit harder. :D

jirka rk

19th July 2007, 06:07

Good morning from Czech republic. This is what I have about these rallies:

ERC 1 - Rally Routes du Nord 1971 ( F )
5.Jose Barbara / Michel Vevra Ford Capri RS 2600
6.Jean Pierre Rouget Alpine Renault A110

ERC 4 - Elba Rally 1971
4.Taufer / Bond Porsche 911 S
5.Bossetti / Mischiatti ALancia Fulvia HF 1600
6.Sonda / Bertollo IFiat 125 S
7.Arnaldo Cavallari / Simoni ILancia Fulvia HF 1600
8.Bossetti / Ferrari ILancia Fulvia HF 1600
9.Carello / Oberti IFiat 124 Spider
10.Maurizio Verini / Piazza IFiat 124 Spider

ERC 15 - Rally di Castrozza 1971
5.Alcide Paganelli / Nini Russo IFiat 124 Spider
6.Rafaele Pinto / Helmuth Eisendle IFiat 124 Spider
7.Luciano Trombotto / Enrico IFiat 124 Spider
8.Gianni Bossetti / Tiziano ILancia Fulvia HF 1600
9.A. Smania / Zambelli IFiat 125 S
10.Walch / Rothfuss Porsche 911 S

ERC 3 - Neige et Glance 1972
4.Robert NeyretAlpine
5.Guy ChasseuilFord Capri
7.RagnottiFOpel Ascona

ERC 4 - Lyon Charbonnieres 1972
6.Marie Claude Beaumont / PignardOpel Ascona 2000
7.Sabine / HuretPorsche 911 S
8.Herbert Grunsteidl / HopfBMW 2002
9.Gert Behret / PitzPorsche 911 S
10.Ragnotti / JaubertFOpel GT Proto

ERC 5 - Firestone 1972
4.M.Etchebers Porsche
5.G.Blomqvist / I.BlomqvistSOpel Ascona
7.Estanislav ReverterPorsche
8.Jean Francois MaasPorsche 911

ERC 7 - ELBA 1972
4.Verini / QuarantaIFiat 124 Spider
6.Tominz / ,,Squaw"IFiat 124 Spider
7.Franco Ceccato / BertolloIFiat 125 Sport Coupe
9.BosettiLancia
10.Tony CarelloLancia

ERC 11 - Scottish 1972
7.Tony Fall Datsun
10.Donald HeggieFord Escort RS 1600

ERC 12 - Semperit 1972
4.ZásadaPLPorsche 911
5.Sergio BarbasioLancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
6.Verini / Scabini IFiat 124 Spider
8.Georg FischerVW 1302 S

ERC 19 - San Martino di Castrozza 1972
4.Alcide Paganelli / Nini Russo IFiat 124 Spider
5.Maurizio Verini / Bruno Scabini IFiat 124 Spider
6.Giulio Bisulli / ZanuccoliIFiat 124 Spider
7.A. Smania / F. Zambelli IFiat 124 Spider
8.Gianni Bossetti / Tiziano ILancia Fulvia HF 1600
9.Donatella Tominz / "Squaw" IFiat 124 Spider
10.Tacchini / Mariani ILancia Fulvia HF 1600

ERC 20 - Tour de France 1972
4.Piot / VialFPorsche 911 S
5.Beaumont / GiganotFChevrolet Corvette
6.Touroul / LafontPorsche 911 S
7.Balas / FoucherPorsche 911 S
8.Greder / DelferierFOpel Commodore
9.Thiry / WitzFPorsche 911 S
10.Ragnotti / JaubertFChevrolet Camaro

ERC 21 - Baltic 1972
1.Rohrl / BergerDFord Capri 2600 RS
2.ZásadaPL
3.Kristensen
4.Olsen
5.Christensen
6.John HauglandNSkoda
7.Wilhelmsson
8.Tangeland / Fadum N
9.Sorensen / PetersenDK?
10.Schnoor / Schwartz D

ERC 23 - YU 1972
4.Hommel Peter/Bork GunterWartburg 353
5.Jelinek Jaroslav/Kvaizar SvatoplukCSSkoda 110R
6.Cullmbacher Egon/Werner ErnestWartburg 353
7.Vrban Bern/Malsch BernhardWartburg 353
8.Srnsky Josef/Syrovatko JiriSkoda 110R
9.Asmus Eberhard/Meischner ChristianTrabant P601
10.Jesic Miroslav/Maric ZoranSkoda 110 A2

ERC 28 - Tour de Belgique 1972
1.Staepelaere / VaillantBFord Escort RS 1600
2.Rainard HainbachBMW 2002Ti
3.
4.Jean Louis HaxheDAF
5.DidiFiat
6.Gustavsson BMW

I have also a few questions :

Who was 10 in TAP Portugal 1971?
Who was 2 and 3 in Tour of Belqium 1970?
Who was 2 and 3 in RACE Spain 1970?
Who was 2 and 3 in Lorraine 1970?
End 1-10 in Solitude Lyon / Charbonnieres 1970 ?

Thanks Jiri.

januszsz

19th July 2007, 07:08

Thanks!

Now I have the top from 75 up to 90. Would you have 91 too? I only have the first seven. I need 73 and 74 too that's a bit harder. :D
Top 10 of Haspengouw '91 was already sent by Kyosti. It was not so long ago, just few days. (message no 617)
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

19th July 2007, 09:41

Someone knows.......

10 novembre 1989
Belgium

16° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - ??
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------

2-4 giugno 1989
Belgium

6° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship - coeff. ??
national rally

Results:
1. ???? Vandermaesen - ???? Aerts (BMW M3)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------------

?? / ?? / 1989
Belgium

?? Rally 12 Heures de Marche
Start: ????
Finish: ?????

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. Bruno Thiry - ???? ???? (Citroen Visa 1000 Pistes)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

----------------------------

5 maggio 1989
Belgium

?? 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Jean-Pierre van de Wauwer - Luc Manset (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Ivan Viaene - ???? ???? (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
3. Renaud Verreydt - ????? (Toyota Celica 4WD)

---------------------------

17 marzo 1989
Belgium

39° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Marc Duez - Alain Lopes (BMW M3)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

19th July 2007, 09:54

Good morning from Czech republic.
I have also a few questions :

Who was 10 in TAP Portugal 1971?
Who was 2 and 3 in Tour of Belqium 1970?
Who was 2 and 3 in RACE Spain 1970?
Who was 2 and 3 in Lorraine 1970?
End 1-10 in Solitude Lyon / Charbonnieres 1970 ?

Thanks Jiri.
Thank you Jiri for your contribution. Here are answers for your questions:

Solitude Lyon / Charbonnieres 1970
1 Jean-Claude Andruet/David Stone-F/GB-Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S
2 Claude Haldi/E. Chapuis-CH-Porsche911 S
3 Jacques Henry/Salder-F-Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S
4 Achim Warmbold/Wulf Biebinger-D-Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye
5 Roland Charriere/Yannick Castell-F-Alpine-Renault A110
6 Helmut Bein/Hans Christoph Mehmel-D-BMW 2002 TI
7 Jean Ragnotti/Pierre Thimonier-F-Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye
8 Palayer / Denis-?- BMW
9 Dirand/Vautrin - ?- BMW 2002 TI
10 Marie-Claude Beaumont/Martine de la Grandrive-F-Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye

Lorraine 1970
2 Roussely/Berguet-Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S
3 Jacques Henry/Laumer-F-Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S

RACE 1970
2. Ruiz-Gimenez/Castanedo-E-Porsche 911 S
3. Bernard darniche/Marcel Callewaert-F-Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S

Belgium 1970
2. Alcide Paganelli/Nini Russo-I-Fiat 124 Spyder
3. Bertnichamps/Deprez-B-Alfa Romeo GTA

TAP Portugal 1971
10. nobody - there were junst only 9 classified!

regards
Janusz

Giorgio

19th July 2007, 10:52

I have also a few questions :

Who was 10 in TAP Portugal 1971?
Who was 2 and 3 in Tour of Belqium 1970?
Who was 2 and 3 in RACE Spain 1970?
Who was 2 and 3 in Lorraine 1970?
End 1-10 in Solitude Lyon / Charbonnieres 1970 ?

Thanks Jiri.

20-22 novembre 1970 - Tour de Belgique
1. Gilbert Staepelaere - André Aerts (Ford Escort TC 1600)
2. Alcide Paganelli - "Nini" (Domenico) Russo (Fiat 124 Spider 1600)
3. Pierre-Yves Bertinchamps - Yves Deprez (Alfa Romeo 1750 Spider)

22-25 ottobre 1970 - 18° RACE Rally de España
1. Jean-Pierre Nicolas - David Stone (Renault Alpine A110 1600 proto)
2. Alberto Ruiz Jimenez - Rafael Castaneda (Porsche 911 S)
3. Bernard Darniche - Marcel Callewaert (Renault Alpine A110 1600)

30-31 maggio 1970 - Criterium de Lorraine
1. Jean-Claude Andruet - Guy Michel Vial (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
2. Francis Roussely - Berguet (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
3. Jacques Henry - Lauer (Renault Alpine A110 1600)

13-15 marzo 1970 - Rally Lyon - Charbonnières / Stuttgart - Solitude
1. Jean-Claude Andruet - David Stone (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
2. Claude Haldi - Eric Chapuis (Porsche 911)
3. Jacques Henry - Fred Sadler (Renault Alpine A110 1600)

Juha

19th July 2007, 12:33

Juha

19th July 2007, 12:51

10-12 novembre 1989
Belgium

16° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - co.5
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer - Luc Manset (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
3. Michel Lizin - Robert Rorife (Lancia Delta Integrale)

---------------------------

2-4 giugno 1989
Belgium

6° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship - coeff. NOT COUNTING FOR ERC
national rally

Results:
1. Valère Vandermaesen - Julien Aerts (BMW M3)
2. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer - Luc Manset (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
3. Marc Soulet - Philippe Willem (BMW M3)

-------------------------------------
13-14 / 05 / 1989
Belgium

?? Rally 12 Heures de Marche
Start: Marche en Famenne
Finish: Marchen en Famenne

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. Bruno Thiry - Danny Delvaux (Citroen Visa 1000 Pistes)
2. Jos Boon - Pauwels (Mazda RX-7)
3. Delleuse - Dombret (Opel Manta 400)

----------------------------

5-7 maggio 1989
Belgium

?? 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally

Results:
1. Jean-Pierre van de Wauwer - Luc Manset (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Ivan Viaene - Roland Dewulf (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
3. Renaud Verreydt - Georges Biar (Toyota Celica 4WD)

---------------------------

17-19 marzo 1989
Belgium

39° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 4
international rally

Results:
1. Marc Duez - Alain Lopes (BMW M3)
2. Renaud Verreydt - Georges Biar (Toyota Celica 4WD)
3. Valère Vandermaesen - Julien Aerts (BMW M3)

Giorgio

19th July 2007, 13:35

Grande, Juha!!

regards

Giorgio

elvis

19th July 2007, 21:56

hi everybody

i'm searching some informations about history of C 868 EUD

it was a metro 6R4 sponsored by Belga and raced with marc duez.

what about their result ? who was C 868 EUD drivers before and after marc duez ?

thanks a lot

regards

januszsz

20th July 2007, 07:19

Giorgio

20th July 2007, 13:42

I have:

28-30 maggio 1970 - 14° Rally Bodensee - Neusiedlersee (in 1971 Semperit)
4. Neger - Sternecker (BMW 2002)
5. Zelenka - Zelenka (Ford Escort)

-----------------------------------

21 giugno 1971
France

Coupe des Alpes
Start: Marseille
Finish: Marseille

km. 2340
grand touring cars - touring cars - prototypes
international championship for makes
internationa rally

Results:
1. Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahé (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
2. Jean Vinatier - Lucette Pointet (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
3. Jean-François Piot - Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS 1800)
4. René Trautmann - Leyssieux (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600)
5. Jacques Henry - Etienne Grobot (Renault Alpine A110 1600)

last edition

---------------------------------------------

17-25 settembre 1971
France

Tour de France Automobile
Start: Nice
Finish: Nice

km. 5200
groups 1-2-3-4-5-6
european rally championship
championnat de france des rallyes - coeff. 12
international rally

Results:
1. Gérard Larrousse - Johnny Rives (Matra Simca MS 650 spider)
2. José Juncadella - Jean-Pierre Jabouille - Jean-Claude Guénard (Ferrari 512 M)
3. Claude Ballot-Léna - Jean-Claude Morenas (Porsche 911 S 2400)
4. Vic Elford - Max Kingsland (Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB4)
5. Jean-Marie Jacquemin - R. Mercier (Porsche 911 S 2400)
6. Tony Fall - Mike Wood (BMW 2002 TI)
7. Jean-François Piot - Jim Porter (Ford Capri RS)
8. Ennio Bonomelli - Christine Beckers (Porsche 911 S 2400)
9. Jean Egreteaud - J. Boissonet (Porsche 911 S 2200)
10. Jean-Claude Andruet - Claude Roure (Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB4)

Regards

Giorgio

januszsz

20th July 2007, 14:28

I have:

28-30 maggio 1970 - 14° Rally Bodensee - Neusiedlersee (in 1971 Semperit)
4. Neger - Sternecker (BMW 2002)
5. Zelenka - Zelenka (Ford Escort)

-----------------------------------

21 giugno 1971
France

Coupe des Alpes
Start: Marseille
Finish: Marseille

km. 2340
grand touring cars - touring cars - prototypes
international championship for makes
internationa rally

Results:
1. Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahé (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
2. Jean Vinatier - Lucette Pointet (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
3. Jean-François Piot - Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS 1800)
4. René Trautmann - Leyssieux (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600)
5. Jacques Henry - Etienne Grobot (Renault Alpine A110 1600)

last edition

---------------------------------------------

17-25 settembre 1971
France

Tour de France Automobile
Start: Nice
Finish: Nice

km. 5200
groups 1-2-3-4-5-6
european rally championship
championnat de france des rallyes - coeff. 12
international rally

Results:
1. Gérard Larrousse - Johnny Rives (Matra Simca MS 650 spider)
2. José Juncadella - Jean-Pierre Jabouille - Jean-Claude Guénard (Ferrari 512 M)
3. Claude Ballot-Léna - Jean-Claude Morenas (Porsche 911 S 2400)
4. Vic Elford - Max Kingsland (Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB4)
5. Jean-Marie Jacquemin - R. Mercier (Porsche 911 S 2400)
6. Tony Fall - Mike Wood (BMW 2002 TI)
7. Jean-François Piot - Jim Porter (Ford Capri RS)
8. Ennio Bonomelli - Christine Beckers (Porsche 911 S 2400)
9. Jean Egreteaud - J. Boissonet (Porsche 911 S 2200)
10. Jean-Claude Andruet - Claude Roure (Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB4)

Regards

Giorgio
Thank you Giorgio, you have already sent it before and I got it. It was my mistake making the "updated" list of missing results. Sorry.
Janusz

Giorgio

21st July 2007, 10:56

Someone knows.......

15 aprile 1989 - 4° Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------

16 febbraio 1989 - 32° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Stig Blomqvist - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta Integrale)
3. Jean-Pierre van de Wauwer - ???? ???? (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)

--------------------------------------

11 novembre 1988 - 15° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------------

13 maggio 1988 - ?? 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

NoelCollings

21st July 2007, 14:49

Does anyone know the following:

The entrant/main sponsor of Gregoire de Mevius on the 1998 Boucles de Spa?

The entrant/main sponsor of Armin Kremer on the 1998 Rallye Automobile de Monte Carlo; ADAC Rallye Niedersachsen; Mogul Sumava Rallye; ADAC Rallye Deutschland; AvD/STH Hunsruck Rallye; Golden Tulip Rally (NL)?

The competition number of Armin Kremer on the 1998 ADAC Rallye Niedersachsen and Mogul Sumava Rallye?

The entrant/main sponsor of Bernard Munster on the 1998 Rally Circuit des Ardennes?

The entrant/main sponsor of Aris Vovos on the 1998 Acropolis Rally of Greece and Elpa Rally Halkidiki?

Thanks

Noel

harriswrc

21st July 2007, 17:21

The entrant/main sponsor of Aris Vovos on the 1998 Acropolis Rally of Greece and Elpa Rally Halkidiki?

Thanks

NoelVovos entered Acropolis Rally and ELPA Halkidiki Rally in his own name. His main sponsor was Mamidakis.

Juha

21st July 2007, 22:24

The entrant/main sponsor of Gregoire de Mevius on the 1998 Boucles de Spa?
- Belgacom

The entrant/main sponsor of Bernard Munster on the 1998 Rally Circuit des Ardennes?
- Vergokan

FAL

21st July 2007, 22:52

feresc13

22nd July 2007, 07:10

Someone knows the dates of these rallyes...

- Boucles Spa 1987

- International Manx Rally 1978

And the Tour France Auto from 1958, 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1984

Thank you in advanced

Giorgio

22nd July 2007, 09:58

Very minor point above - 71 Coupe des Alpes - Piot/Porter was RS1600 not 1800.

Thank you, Fal!

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

22nd July 2007, 10:00

Someone knows the dates of these rallyes...

- Boucles Spa 1987

- International Manx Rally 1978

And the Tour France Auto from 1958, 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1984

Thank you in advanced

I have:

15 settembre 1978 - Manx Rally
14 settembre 1958 - 7° Tour de France Automobile
17 settembre 1980 - Tour de France Automobile
15 settembre 1981 - Tour de France Automobile
19 settembre 1982 - Tour de France Automobile
24-28 settembre 1984 - Tour de France Automobile

Best regards

Giorgio

feresc13

22nd July 2007, 10:44

I have:

15 settembre 1978 - Manx Rally
14 settembre 1958 - 7° Tour de France Automobile
17 settembre 1980 - Tour de France Automobile
15 settembre 1981 - Tour de France Automobile
19 settembre 1982 - Tour de France Automobile
24-28 settembre 1984 - Tour de France Automobile

Best regards

Giorgio

Thank you, thank you very much!!

Kindest regards

RiN

22nd July 2007, 12:26

Can someone please help me with these missing names from the 1953 season.

Monte-Carlo:
3 R... Marion - J.... Charmasson (Citroen)

Sestriere:
10 Emanuele Nasi - ..... Ceriana (Fiat)

Tulpen:
7 Theo Koks - K.... De Jong (VW)
8 J.... Scheffer - G.... Willing (Jowett)

Midnight Sun:
6 Owe Stålheim - E.... Frank (Citroen)
8 K.... E.... Andersson - O.... Tryggvesson (Fiat)

Alps:
8 Ferdinando Gatta - .... Cottino (Lancia)

Liege:
6 Franco Caramelli - .... Turbiglio (Lancia)
7 Oreste Barozzi - .... (Siro?) Colombo (Lancia)
9 .... Bigoni - .... Curie (Citroen)

Lisboa:
1 Joaquim Filipe Nogueira - ? (Porsche)

RiN

Carles Bosch 2

22nd July 2007, 15:40

Someone knows the dates of these rallyes...

- Boucles Spa 1987

- International Manx Rally 1978

And the Tour France Auto from 1958, 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1984

Thank you in advanced

Ferran,

'58 Tour de France, 14th-21st September
'80 Tour de France, 23rd-26th October
'81 Tour de France, 30th April - 3rd May
'82 Tour de France, 5th-9th May

Carles.

Giorgio

22nd July 2007, 15:46

Can someone please help me with these missing names from the 1953 season.

Liege:
6 Franco Caramelli - .... Turbiglio (Lancia)
7 Oreste Barozzi - .... (Siro?) Colombo (Lancia)
9 .... Bigoni - .... Curie (Citroen)

RiN

I have a little....

Liege:
6 Franco Caramelli - .... Turbiglio (Lancia Aurelia GT 2500)
7 Oreste Barozzi - .... (Siro?) Colombo (Lancia Aurelia 1980 cc berlina)
9 .... Bigoni - .... Curie (Citroen 2867 cc)

Regards

Giorgio

feresc13

22nd July 2007, 21:57

Ferran,

'58 Tour de France, 14th-21st September
'80 Tour de France, 23rd-26th October
'81 Tour de France, 30th April - 3rd May
'82 Tour de France, 5th-9th May

Carles.

Hi Carles,

I refered to the Tour de France Auto, not to the Tour de Corse - Rally de France, thank you anyway.

Ferran

Carles Bosch 2

23rd July 2007, 06:51

Hi Carles,

I refered to the Tour de France Auto, not to the Tour de Corse - Rally de France, thank you anyway.

Ferran

Sorry...

'58 Tour de France, 14th-21st September
'80 Tour de France, 17th-20th September
'81 Tour de France, 13th-18th September
'82 Tour de France, 17th-22nd September

Carles.

feresc13

23rd July 2007, 07:15

Sorry...

'58 Tour de France, 14th-21st September
'80 Tour de France, 17th-20th September
'81 Tour de France, 13th-18th September
'82 Tour de France, 17th-22nd September

Carles.

Perfect!! :up:

Giorgio

24th July 2007, 09:28

Someone knows.......

15 aprile 1989 - 4° Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

---------------------------

16 febbraio 1989 - 32° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Stig Blomqvist - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta Integrale)
3. Jean-Pierre van de Wauwer - ???? ???? (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)

--------------------------------------

11 novembre 1988 - 15° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------------

13 maggio 1988 - ?? 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

ettelbruck

24th July 2007, 13:26

2. Stig Blomqvist - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta Integrale)

Benny Melander

feresc13

24th July 2007, 14:09

Giorgio

24th July 2007, 16:15

Anyone knows when was the Rally Sestriere 1958 celebreted? And the names and nacionalities from Schramm and Falk

24 febbraio 1958 - 9° Rally del Sestriere

Regards

Giorgio

Juha

25th July 2007, 10:38

15-16 aprile 1989 - 4° Rally des Hautes fa*gnes
Start: Jalhay
Finish: Jalhay

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes nationeaux
international rally

Results:
1. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer - Heunders (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Marc Duez - Alain Lopes (BMW M3)
3. Bruno Thiry - Dany Delvaux (Citroën Visa 1000 pistes)

---------------------------

16-19 febbraio 1989 - 32° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Toyota Celica 4WD)
2. Stig Blomqvist - Benny Melander (Lancia Delta Integrale)
3. Jean-Pierre van de Wauwer - Luc manset (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)

------------------------------------------

13-15 maggio 1988 - Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1 RobertDroogmans / RonnyJoosten (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
2 MarkLovell / TerryHarryman (Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
3 Jean-PierreVan de Wauwer / YvesBozet(Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)

Giorgio

25th July 2007, 15:56

Very Thanks, Juha!

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

26th July 2007, 20:11

Someone knows.......

9- 10 aprile 1988
Belgium

TAC Rally
Start: Tielt
Finish: Tielt

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

--------------------------------------

26-27 marzo 1988
Belgium

Rally de Hannut
Start: Hannut
Finish: Hannut

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-----------------------------------------

11 marzo 1988
Belgium

38° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------

15 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Steve Boyd

26th July 2007, 21:59

I have:

15 settembre 1978 - Manx Rally
14 settembre 1958 - 7° Tour de France Automobile
17 settembre 1980 - Tour de France Automobile
15 settembre 1981 - Tour de France Automobile
19 settembre 1982 - Tour de France Automobile
24-28 settembre 1984 - Tour de France Automobile

Best regards

Giorgio

I've just checked my diary for 1978 & the Manx was two days Friday & Saturday 15 & 16 September. I was there watching a friend competing in his first international, sadly he didn't finish that year but finished 4th in class two years later.

Steve

feresc13

27th July 2007, 07:16

I've just checked my diary for 1978 & the Manx was two days Friday & Saturday 15 & 16 September. I was there watching a friend competing in his first international, sadly he didn't finish that year but finished 4th in class two years later.

Steve

Thank you very much! Your information is pretty good!

Now I have find out another lack of information in my database, does anybody knows the dates of the Boucles Spa 1987? I just find out that won Snijers with the Lancia Delta

Thanks

Giorgio

27th July 2007, 13:56

I've just checked my diary for 1978 & the Manx was two days Friday & Saturday 15 & 16 September. I was there watching a friend competing in his first international, sadly he didn't finish that year but finished 4th in class two years later.

Steve

Thank you, Steve! You knows if the coefficient for ERC is 1 or 2 for Manx 1978 ?

Best regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

27th July 2007, 14:00

Thank you very much! Your information is pretty good!

Now I have find out another lack of information in my database, does anybody knows the dates of the Boucles Spa 1987? I just find out that won Snijers with the Lancia Delta

Thanks

7 febbraio 1987 - 30° Boucles de Spa

You have the 2° and 3° classified ?

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

27th July 2007, 14:03

Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège 1931 / 1937

???? Orban - Jean Trasenster (Bugatti 3000)
???? Demoulin - ???? Dejardin (Citroen 2440)
???? Laloux - ???? Renard (Chrysler 3900)
???? Humpers - ???? Bove (FN 1450)
???? Orban - L???? Havelange (Bugatti 3300)
???? Laloux - Jean Trasenster (Chrysler 3900)
L???? Eggen - Orban de Xivry (Ford)
???? Collon - ???? Debroux (FN 1450)
???? Declercq - ???? Colmant (Buick 8c)
???? George Télesphore - ???? Collon (FN 8c)
Paul von Guillaume - Mme L???? Bahr (Adler 4c)
???? Duhoux - ???? Lays (Dodge 8c)
???? van Howe - ???? Essinger (Ford 4c)
???? Peeters - ???? Collon (Bugatti 8c)
???? van Naemen - ???? Canciani (Lancia 8c)
???? Bernet - ???? Sailer (Mercedes Benz 4c)
???? Franz - ???? Eggen (Ford 8c)
???? Orban - ???? Havelange (Bugatti 8c)
???? Valkenberg - ???? Havelange (Triumph 4c 1127 cc)
???? Gudy - ???? de Biollay (Imperia 6c 1800 cc)
J???? von Krohm - H???? Horman (Opel 6c 920 cc)
Michel Réal - ???? Pamard (Renault 6c 4085 cc)
Comte P???? von Orssich - Chevalier von Arentin (Adler 4c)
C???? von Guillaume - E???? Bog (Opel 6c)
???? Legré - ???? Angelvin (Panhard 6c)
Huscke von Hanstein - ???? Bund (Hanomag 4c 1494)
Maurice Gatsonides - ???? van Hunt (Riley 4c)
???? Massa - ???? Brunetto (Lancia 4c)
???? Jacot - ???? Escalle (Citroen 4c)
???? Odendahl - ???? Walter Scheube (Opel 6c)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

27th July 2007, 15:20

Thank you, Steve! You knows if the coefficient for ERC is 1 or 2 for Manx 1978 ?

Best regards

Giorgio

coeff 2

Giorgio

27th July 2007, 15:56

Thank you Janusz !

Regards

Giorgio

feresc13

28th July 2007, 07:06

7 febbraio 1987 - 30° Boucles de Spa

You have the 2° and 3° classified ?

Regards

Giorgio

I'm sorry, but I just find out in Patrick Snijers website that he won the Boucles Spa rally. But i will try to know something else more ;)

januszsz

28th July 2007, 16:00

Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège 1931 / 1937
Télesphore GeorgeS - ???? Collon (FN 8c)
Comte PETER von Orssich - Chevalier von Arentin (Adler 4c)
HuscHke von Hanstein - ???? Bund (Hanomag 4c 1494)
Maurice Gatsonides - WILLEM van HuUt (Riley 4c)
????DE Massa - ???? Brunetto (Lancia 4c)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
j

kyosti

28th July 2007, 16:15

I'm sorry, but I just find out in Patrick Snijers website that he won the Boucles Spa rally. But i will try to know something else more ;)

1Patrick SNIJERSDany COLEBUNDERSB/BLancia Delta HF 4WDA
2Bernard MUNSTERDEMEULEMEESTERB/BAudi Coupé Quattro A
3Dirk VERMEERSCHDanny DE CANCKB/BAudi Coupé Quattro A
4Pascal GABANWilly LUXB/BMazda323 Formule 4N
5Jacky DELVAUXSEVRINB/BVolkswagen Golf GTIA
6Renaud VERREYDTPatrick JAMARB/BToyota Corolla GTA
7Valère VANDERMAESENJulien AERTSB/BMercedes 190E 2,3 16vA
8Jean-Pierre VAN DE WAUWERYves BOZETB/BToyota Corolla GTA
9L KRECEKMOTLCZ/CZSkoda130 LRA
10Jean-Claude PROBSTSOUGNEB/BFord Sierra XR4x4N

Giorgio

28th July 2007, 17:50

Thank you, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

januszsz

28th July 2007, 19:24

Giorgio

29th July 2007, 08:16

Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège - 1938 / 1952

Peter Wessely - ???? Juszczynski (Steyr 6c)
???? de Massa - ???? Brunetto (Lancia 4c)
Huschke von Hanstein - ???? Bund (Hanomag 4c 1494)
???? Rohricht - ???? Lobering (Hanomag 4c)
Michel Réal - ???? Perand (Simca-Fiat 4c)
???? Tragner - ???? Fritzching (Auto Union 6c)
???? Camus - Comte de la Rivelière (Citroen 4c)
Jean Trévoux - ???? Lesurque (Hotchkiss 3486)
Paul von Guillaume - W???? Kramer (Adler 2000)
M???? Muller - G???? Menz (Auto Union Wanderer 1963)
???? Momberger - ???? Weidauer (Auto Union Wanderer 1963)
A???? Masurek - ???? Rzadkowski (Chevrolet 3543)
A???? Lhor - W???? Herrmann (Adler 1985)
H???? von Wangenheim - F???? Bund (Hanomag 1985)
C???? Mazalon - Michel Réal (Citroen 1919)
A???? Delmarco - F???? Delmarco (Alfa Romeo 6c 2300)
???? Kreischer (Volvo)
????Constantin - ???? Strich (Delage 3000)
Marcel Lauga - ???? Loevenbruck (Simca 8 1221)
Georges Reip - ???? van Cauwenberghe (BMW 3500)
Jacques Herzet - ???? Baudouin (Jaguar XK120 3442)
Yves Lesur - L???? Penchennati (Simca 1090)
Pierre Stasse - ???? Hermand (Porsche 1500)
???? de Wit - ???? Devis (Fiat Stanguellini 1100)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

29th July 2007, 11:25

Giorgio

29th July 2007, 16:19

Very Thanks, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

30th July 2007, 13:47

Someone knows.......

9- 10 aprile 1988
Belgium

TAC Rally
Start: Tielt
Finish: Tielt

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

--------------------------------------

26-27 marzo 1988
Belgium

Rally de Hannut
Start: Hannut
Finish: Hannut

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-----------------------------------------

11 marzo 1988
Belgium

38° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------

15 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Kaps

30th July 2007, 15:26

I've read that, in order to be classified in 1987 World Rally Championship for drivers, every works driver had to have at least 1 start on a non-European rally.
However, Jean Ragnotti (a works Renault driver) was classified 5th in the Drivers' Championship with 51 points, having competed on Monte, Portugal, Corsica, Acropolis and San Remo. Not one outside Europe.

The same goes for his team-mate Francois Chatriot, as well, classified 13th, with 22 points.

Were Renault team excepted from that rule,or what?
Does anyone know anything more about that?

Thanks!

januszsz

30th July 2007, 17:28

I've read that, in order to be classified in 1987 World Rally Championship for drivers, every works driver had to have at least 1 start on a non-European rally.
However, Jean Ragnotti (a works Renault driver) was classified 5th in the Drivers' Championship with 51 points, having competed on Monte, Portugal, Corsica, Acropolis and San Remo. Not one outside Europe.

The same goes for his team-mate Francois Chatriot, as well, classified 13th, with 22 points.

Were Renault team excepted from that rule,or what?
Does anyone know anything more about that?

Thanks!
According to Martin Holmes' explanation of "points rules" for WRC 1987 driver had to copete at least once to became the World Champion. There is nothing about dividing drivers as "works" and "non-works" ones and applying them different rules. But participants of Production Car Cup (group N) to be classified were obliged to take part at least one outside Europe.
Regards
Janusz

januszsz

30th July 2007, 17:32

Dalmi

30th July 2007, 17:37

In the final results of 1987, Jean Ragnotti (5th) is considered as NP (no points) in some books and the same for Chatriot. Probably, your final results includes Ragnotti, Chatriot and some more elses (Béguin, Salonen, Loubet, Saby, Auriol...) but they must not be in an official classem*nt.
In the constructors classem*nt, Renault figures in third place according with the points it gets with the local 18 GTX in Argentina Rally

Regards

Giorgio

31st July 2007, 18:27

Someone knows.......

30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
3° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A - B
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford RS 200)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia 037 Rally)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------

1-2 maggio 1987
4° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. ???? Walfridson - ???? Briesen (Renault 5 GT Turbo)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-----------------------------------------

11 marzo 1988
38° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------

15 maggio 1987
Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)
Sezoens Rally (1985 - 1986 - 1987 - 1988 - 1989 - 1990 - 1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994 - 1995)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

kabouter

3rd August 2007, 14:14

I've read that, in order to be classified in 1987 World Rally Championship for drivers, every works driver had to have at least 1 start on a non-European rally.

Interesting point this. It's the first time I've heard about this rule, and as Janusz has already mentioned Martin Holmes doesn't say anything about it in World Rallying. When I'm home I'll check some other books, but I don't remember seeing this rule before. What is your source?

Kaps

4th August 2007, 21:08

Hi kabouter!
It's been a while since I last heard from you!

Well, like janusz said, it looks like it was a one non-European start required in order to became a Drivers' world champion, and not to be eligible to be classified in the championship, as it says on jonkka's site, here, in the note in the top right corner:

http://www.juwra.com/season_1987_points.html

GrazRS

4th August 2007, 22:16

Hi there,

I'm new in the forum and I'm asking already help to all of you :blackeye:

Has someone of you pictures of the Audi Quattro S1 used in the Race of Champions 1990? I'm also looking to find out who were all the pilots who participated to this event..

Thank you very much

P.S.: is there a place where I can/have to introduce myself?

Wim_Impreza

4th August 2007, 22:48

Hi there,

I'm new in the forum and I'm asking already help to all of you :blackeye:

Has someone of you pictures of the Audi Quattro S1 used in the Race of Champions 1990? I'm also looking to find out who were all the pilots who participated to this event..

Thank you very much

P.S.: is there a place where I can/have to introduce myself?

Welcome :) I can't help you with this Audi story. You can introduce yourself in the Motorcycle racing area. ;)

kabouter

5th August 2007, 00:22

Well, like janusz said, it looks like it was a one non-European start required in order to became a Drivers' world champion, and not to be eligible to be classified in the championship, as it says on jonkka's site, here, in the note in the top right corner:

http://www.juwra.com/season_1987_points.html

Also "Le championnat du monde des rallyes 87" by Michel Lizin and Dutch annual "Rally's & Races 87/88" do not mention this rule.

Dalmi, which book(s) list Ragnotti and Chatriot as having scored no points?

Josti

5th August 2007, 12:47

Hi there,

I'm new in the forum and I'm asking already help to all of you :blackeye:

Has someone of you pictures of the Audi Quattro S1 used in the Race of Champions 1990? I'm also looking to find out who were all the pilots who participated to this event..

Thank you very much

http://audis1.no.sapo.pt/20carsonly.htm

Here´s a site with an overview of all the S1´s ever used in events, including the Race of Champions. The pilots were mostly WRC drivers like Sainz, Kankkunen, Blomqvist etc. (maybe someone else knows more).

kabouter

5th August 2007, 16:58

4. IVAN VIAENE / ROLAND DUWOLF - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
5. JAKAE / WOELANDERS - OPEL CORSA GSI
6. CHIEL BOS / REUEINGS - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH (N)

That's it. Maybe somebody can add missing first names.
Janusz

Roland Dewulf (not Duwolf)
Antoon Reurings

I think Jakae might be a spelling error as well, but I don't know who it should be...

[Edit] Found it: Patrick Jamar / Yves Noelanders :D

januszsz

5th August 2007, 18:30

Roland Dewulf (not Duwolf)
Antoon Reurings

I think Jakae might be a spelling error as well, but I don't know who it should be...

[Edit] Found it: Patrick Jamar / Yves Noelanders :D
Thank you for missing names and correction of spelling error. Do you know first names of De Borck/Comings R5 GT Turbo who finished 9th in that rally (Haspengouw'90) ?
Regards
Janusz

kabouter

5th August 2007, 20:08

I'm sorry, my best guess is that it's Gerard De Boeck, possibly with a codriver named Conings, but I can't find any confirmation.

I have done some additions to the 1980 and 1981 Rallye Monte Carlo results in RallyBase last night (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=288 and http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=276 respectively) and I discovered in both editions Swiss Daihatsu drivers.

In 1980 the following car was entered in Group 1:
#82 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (38th overall)

In 1981 there are the following cars, all in Group 2:
#44 Carron - Schaer (retired, classified 93rd)
#50 Chapuis - Bernasconi (unknown)
#63 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (28th overall)

The only car I could find that Daihatsu produced in those days that could be suitable for rallying is the 1-litre Charade. Is it correct that's the car used?

And does anyone know the first names of Carron (was it Jean-Marie or was it Philippe), Schaer, Chapuis and Bernasconi, and what happened to Chapuis?

BDunnell

5th August 2007, 20:27

Also "Le championnat du monde des rallyes 87" by Michel Lizin and Dutch annual "Rally's & Races 87/88" do not mention this rule.

Dalmi, which book(s) list Ragnotti and Chatriot as having scored no points?

On this subject, I recall Ragnotti certainly being listed in the championship points tables in magazines and on TV at the time. It could have been a mistake, but I somehow doubt they would have calculated the standings themselves without reference to the official listings.

januszsz

5th August 2007, 23:04

I'm sorry, my best guess is that it's Gerard De Boeck, possibly with a codriver named Conings, but I can't find any confirmation.

I have done some additions to the 1980 and 1981 Rallye Monte Carlo results in RallyBase last night (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=288 and http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=276 respectively) and I discovered in both editions Swiss Daihatsu drivers.

In 1980 the following car was entered in Group 1:
#82 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (38th overall)

In 1981 there are the following cars, all in Group 2:
#44 Carron - Schaer (retired, classified 93rd)
#50 Chapuis - Bernasconi (unknown)
#63 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (28th overall)

The only car I could find that Daihatsu produced in those days that could be suitable for rallying is the 1-litre Charade. Is it correct that's the car used?

And does anyone know the first names of Carron (was it Jean-Marie or was it Philippe), Schaer, Chapuis and Bernasconi, and what happened to Chapuis?
Chapuis was 33rd overall (MC'81).
I have: Jean-Marie Carron, Pierre Schaer, Eric D. Chapuis and Edy Bernasconi. There were turbocharged Charades, too. But I don't know which model they used in MC'80 and MC'81.
Regards
Janusz

Giorgio

6th August 2007, 13:18

In 1981:

Eric Chapuis - Enzo (not Edy) Bernasconi

Regards

Giorgio

Giorgio

6th August 2007, 14:34

Someone knows.......

1-2 maggio 1987
Belgium

4° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. ???? Walfridson - ???? Briesen (Renault 5 GT Turbo)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

7-? febbraio 1987
Belgium

30° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
2. Bernard Munster - ???? Demeulemeester (Audi Quattro Coupé)
3. Dirk Vermeersch - Daniel de Canck (Audi Quattro Coupé)
4. Pascal Gaban - Willy Lux (Mazda 323)
5. Jacky Delvaux - ???? Sevrin (Volkswagen Golf GTI)

--------------------------

30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
Belgium

3° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A - B
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford RS 200)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia 037 Rally)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

-------------------------------

15 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

------------------------------------

The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

januszsz

6th August 2007, 17:41

Someone knows.......
6-8 febbraio 1987
Belgium

30° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
2. Bernard Munster - ???? Demeulemeester (Audi Quattro Coupé)
3. Dirk Vermeersch - Daniel de Canck (Audi Quattro Coupé)
4. Pascal Gaban - Willy Lux (Mazda 323)
5. Jacky Delvaux - DELPLACE (Volkswagen Golf GTI)
6. RENAUD VERREYDT - PATRICK JAMAR (TOYOTA COROLLA GT 16V)
7. ?? VANDERMAESEN - ?? AERTS (MERCEDES 190E 2.3-16)
8. JEAN PIERRE VAN DE WAUWER - YVES BOZET (TOYOTA COROLLA GT 16V)
9. LADISLAV KRECEK - BORIVOJ BOTL (SKODA 130 LR)
10. J-C. PROBST - ?? SOUGNE (FORD SIERRA XR4X4)

29-31 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. 1
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ROBERT DROOGMANS - RONY JOOSTEN (FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH)
2. BENGT-INGE STEFANSSON - MATTI HAKALA (VOLVO 240 TURBO)
3. GABY GOUDEZEUNE - ?? CALLEWAERT (OPEL MANTA)
4. ?? VANDERMAESEN - ?? AERTS (MERCEDES 190E 2.3-16)
5. Patrick Snijers - DANY COLEBUNDERS (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
6. MOHAMAD BEN SULAYEM - JOHN SPILLER (FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH)
7. PASCAL GABAN - WILLY LUX (MAZDA 323 4WD TURBO) GR.N
8. ?? VANDENBERGE - ?? GOEMINNE (OPEL MANTA)
9. MARC DUEZ - GEORGES BIAR (BMW M3)
10. ?? STONEMAN - ?? KERNAGHAM (FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH)

Giorgio

Regards
Janusz

kyosti

6th August 2007, 18:37

Someone knows.......

1-2 maggio 1987
Belgium

4° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Lars-Erik Walfridson - ???? Briesen (Renault 5 GT Turbo)
3. Berndt-Inge Stefansson-Hakala(Volvo 240 Turbo)

------------------------------------

7-? febbraio 1987
Belgium

30° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
2. Bernard Munster - ???? Demeulemeester (Audi Quattro Coupé)
3. Dirk Vermeersch - Daniel de Canck (Audi Quattro Coupé)
4. Pascal Gaban - Willy Lux (Mazda 323)
5. Jacky Delvaux - ???? Sevrin (Volkswagen Golf GTI)

--------------------------

30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
Belgium

3° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A - B
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford RS 200)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia 037 Rally)
3. Mario Panontin - Ferfoglia (Lancia 037 Rally)

-------------------------------

15 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans -Ronny Joosten(Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
2. Berndt-Inge Stefansson-Hakala(Volvo 240 Turbo)
3. Gaby Goudezeune-Callewaert(Opel Manta GTE)

------------------------------------

The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (11-12 sep 1993) - (10-11 sep 1994) -(09-10 sep 1995) -(07-08 sep 1996) - (13-14 sep 1997) - (12-13 sep 1998) - (11-12 sep1999)
Rally de Wallonie (04-06 Oct 1991) - (22-23 mai 1992) - (14-16 mai 1993) - (19-20 mai 1994)
03-04 jun
Thanks in advance

Giorgio

Please

Giorgio

6th August 2007, 20:44

Very thanks, Janusz and Kyosti!

Regards

Giorgio

kabouter

7th August 2007, 10:31

Thank you for the information Janusz and Giorgio. I think it's Edy Bernasconi in 1981 by the way, or could Edy and Enzo be the same person?

Some first names from Boucles de Spa and Haspengouw 1987:
Valère Vandermaesen - Julien Aerts
Rob Stoneman - Roy Kernaghan
codriver of Renaud Verreydt is Jean-Manuel Jamar

2nd in Wallonie 1987: Lars-Erik Walfridsson (Swe) and Guy Briesen (Bel).

LotusElise

7th August 2007, 13:24

Hello,

Does anyone know where I could find some pictures of Minna Sillankorva, 1991 FIA Ladies' World Rally Champion? Her or her car will do.
Also, are there any sites with Finnish national rally results? I don't read Finnish so find it hard to navigate round Finnish rallying sites.
It's for my website.

Thanks!

kyosti

7th August 2007, 20:01

Welcome :) I can't help you with this Audi story. You can introduce yourself in the Motorcycle racing area. ;)

... in Germany on the Nurburgring? I was there.

kabouter

7th August 2007, 20:26

Let's see if we can fill some more holes in the RallyBase WRC results.

For Rally Argentina 1994 somebody sent me the results from Autosprint. I'll list the

finishers outside the top 10 here - can anyone fill in missing first names, entry numbers,

and confirm/correct nationalities?
11 (??) Santos + Adriana Manzanares (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 7:40.39
12 (??) ? Roca / ? Schmidt (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:47.49
13 (??) ? Bregagnolo / ? Spaciuk (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:55.13
14 (??) Pablo Gaviña / Adriana Iriart Urruty (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:15.58
15 (??) Nelson? Sanabria / ? Bogado (PAR?) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:16.08
16 (31) Stefan Reininger / Robert Csösz (AUT) Renault Clio W. (N) 8:25.05
-- (??) ? Cravero / Ezequiel? Queralt (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:26.45
-- (??) ? Mariano / ? Manavella (ARG?) Fiat Regata 85 (A) 8:28.08
-- (??) ? Martini / ? Vitola (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:29.53
-- (??) ? Sanabria / ? Rodríguez (PAR?) Lada Samara 1.6 (A) 8:42.53
20 (55) Enrique Levalle / Patricio Isakson (CHI) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 8:51.18
21 (??) ? Pappalardo / ? Muhr (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:58.15
22 (106) Gustavo Dechecchi / Mario Ramos (ARG) Subaru Justy (N) 9:03.53
23 (107) Heriberto Ortíz / Atilio Rolandi (ARG) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 9:07.28
24 (??) Alejandro Saillen / Claudio Henin (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:10.59
25 (??) ? Morosano / ? Marquet (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:23.45

As you can see there are four crews between Reininger in 16th and Levalle in 20th. I guess one of these four was excluded or retired on the final road section. Does anyone know who is the odd one out ;)

januszsz

8th August 2007, 09:17

Let's see if we can fill some more holes in the RallyBase WRC results.

For Rally Argentina 1994 somebody sent me the results from Autosprint. I'll list the

finishers outside the top 10 here - can anyone fill in missing first names, entry numbers,

and confirm/correct nationalities?
11 (??) Santos + Adriana Manzanares (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 7:40.39
12 (??) ? Roca / ? Schmidt (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:47.49
13 (??) ? Bregagnolo / ? Spaciuk (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:55.13
14 (??) Pablo Gaviña / Adriana Iriart Urruty (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:15.58
15 (??) Nelson? Sanabria / ? Bogado (PAR?) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:16.08
16 (31) Stefan Reininger / Robert Csösz (AUT) Renault Clio W. (N) 8:25.05
-- (??) ? Cravero / Ezequiel? Queralt (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:26.45
-- (??) ? Mariano / ? Manavella (ARG?) Fiat Regata 85 (A) 8:28.08
-- (??) ? Martini / ? Vitola (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:29.53
-- (??) ? Sanabria / ? Rodríguez (PAR?) Lada Samara 1.6 (A) 8:42.53
20 (55) Enrique Levalle / Patricio Isakson (CHI) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 8:51.18
21 (??) ? Pappalardo / ? Muhr (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:58.15
22 (106) Gustavo Dechecchi / Mario Ramos (ARG) Subaru Justy (N) 9:03.53
23 (107) Heriberto Ortíz / Atilio Rolandi (ARG) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 9:07.28
24 (??) Alejandro Saillen / Claudio Henin (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:10.59
25 (??) ? Morosano / ? Marquet (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:23.45

As you can see there are four crews between Reininger in 16th and Levalle in 20th. I guess one of these four was excluded or retired on the final road section. Does anyone know who is the odd one out ;)
Martini/Vitola are those guys you are looking for. I have no information what happened to them they are not classified.
Regards
Janusz

feresc13

9th August 2007, 08:09

kabouter

9th August 2007, 16:11

Does somebody knows if there was any special stage ran at night in the Acropolis Rally 1993? Thank you

No, there weren't any night stages in the 1993 Acropolis.

kabouter

9th August 2007, 16:12

Martini/Vitola are those guys you are looking for. I have no information what happened to them they are not classified.
Regards
Janusz

Thanks Janusz, that leaves the following classification with an extra question mark over the fate of Martini/Vitola:

11 (??) Santos + Adriana Manzanares (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 7:40.39
12 (??) ? Roca / ? Schmidt (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:47.49
13 (??) ? Bregagnolo / ? Spaciuk (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:55.13
14 (??) Pablo Gaviña / Adriana Iriart Urruty (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:15.58
15 (??) Nelson? Sanabria / ? Bogado (PAR?) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:16.08
16 (31) Stefan Reininger / Robert Csösz (AUT) Renault Clio W. (N) 8:25.05
17 (??) ? Cravero / Ezequiel? Queralt (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:26.45
18 (??) ? Mariano / ? Manavella (ARG?) Fiat Regata 85 (A) 8:28.08
DQ? R? (??) ? Martini / ? Vitola (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:29.53
19 (??) ? Sanabria / ? Rodríguez (PAR?) Lada Samara 1.6 (A) 8:42.53
20 (55) Enrique Levalle / Patricio Isakson (CHI) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 8:51.18
21 (??) ? Pappalardo / ? Muhr (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:58.15
22 (106) Gustavo Dechecchi / Mario Ramos (ARG) Subaru Justy (N) 9:03.53
23 (107) Heriberto Ortíz / Atilio Rolandi (ARG) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 9:07.28
24 (??) Alejandro Saillen / Claudio Henin (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:10.59
25 (??) ? Morosano / ? Marquet (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:23.45

Can anyone fill in the remaining gaps?

jonkka

9th August 2007, 16:32

Hi kabouter!
It's been a while since I last heard from you!

Well, like janusz said, it looks like it was a one non-European start required in order to became a Drivers' world champion, and not to be eligible to be classified in the championship, as it says on jonkka's site, here, in the note in the top right corner:

http://www.juwra.com/season_1987_points.html

I seem to have a mistake there, I'll correct that.

januszsz

9th August 2007, 22:18

Thanks Janusz, that leaves the following classification with an extra question mark over the fate of Martini/Vitola:

11 (35) Santos + Adriana Manzanares (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 7:40.39
12 (42) VICTOR Roca / OSCAR Schmidt (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:47.49
13 (43) OSCAR Bregagnolo / ERNESTO Spaciuk (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:55.13
14 (73) Pablo Gaviña / Adriana Iriart Urruty (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:15.58
15 (38) Nelson Sanabria / CARLOS Bogado (PAR) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:16.08
16 (31) Stefan Reininger / Robert Csösz (AUT) Renault Clio W. (N) 8:25.05
17 (101) FERNANDO Cravero / Ezequiel Queralt (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:26.45
18 (97) CESAR Mariano / ERNESTO Manavella (ARG) Fiat Regata 85 (A) 8:28.08
DQ? R? (??) ? Martini / ? Vitola (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:29.53
19 (39) NESTOR Sanabria URBIETA / ALBERTO Rodríguez (PAR) Lada Samara 1.6 (A) 8:42.53
20 (55) Enrique Levalle / Patricio Isakson (CHI) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 8:51.18
21 (61) HORACIO Pappalardo / MONICA Muhr (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:58.15
22 (106) Gustavo Dechecchi / Mario Ramos (ARG) Subaru Justy (N) 9:03.53
23 (107) Heriberto Ortíz / Atilio Rolandi (ARG) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 9:07.28
24 (50) Alejandro? JORGE? Saillen / Claudio Henin (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:10.59
25 (70) RODOLFO Morosano? KOROSANO? / JORGE Marquet (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:23.45

Can anyone fill in the remaining gaps?
Regards
Janusz

kabouter

9th August 2007, 22:35

Thank you very much Janusz!

I now hear from a very reliable source that it's indeed Jorge Saillen, and that Morosano is correct. :D
And it's #77 Alberto Martini / Gerardo Vitola (Jorge found in a magazine they retired on the last leg).

Infiniti

11th August 2007, 20:50

Sorry it was the wrong list. The right one is:
Semperit 1970 4th-10th

Thank you in advance
Janusz

ERC 6 – 14. Bodensee-Neusiedlersee Rally 28-30 May

1 Wilfried Gass – FreyPorsche 911S
2 Helmuth Bein – Hans-Christoph MehmelAlpina BMW 2002
3 Carl Schindler – Gustav HruschkaPorsche 914/6
4 Heribert Neger – SterneckerBMW 2002 TI
5 Zelenka – ZelenkaFord Escort TC
6 Utz – BrustBMW 2002 TI
7 Neukom – HopfBMW 2002 TI
8 Sergio Barbasio – Mario ManucciLancia Fulvia HF 1600
9 Achim Warmbold – Wulf BiebingerOpel Kadett
10 Walter Lux – Hans SiebertVolkswagen Beetle 1500

Regards,

Piet

ciclotron

13th August 2007, 13:13

Dear Friends,

This is a copy of a post I made in the general forum, but being about history I’m posting it here too, because I hope You can help me.

I come to You, again, in the sequence of the extraordinary results obtained with the Corolla Levin (see http://rallybase.motorsportforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113267), to ask for Your help.

As You know I am a modeller in 1/43 scale on the theme Portugal Rally (From TAP Rally 1967 to 2001 and WRC 2007).

I’m starting a series of Ford Escort RS 1600 and RS 2000, having taken part in the above events from the sixties and seventies, and I would profoundly appreciate if You could provide me with Images and information of Your historical databases to support the construction of my models.

As I have seen with the Corolla Levin, no one has better information than You about historical Rallying and Your help will be priceless.

From the Rally Base records I collected these examples but I know there is more:

1973 – TAP Rally of Portugal

Nº 23 Francisco Santos / João Anjos – RS 1600 Gr.2
Nº 30 Tony Fowkes / Peter O’Gorman – RS 1600 Gr.2
Nº 32 Douglas Harris / John Jeson – RS 1600 Gr.2
Nº 83 Andy Michailidis / N. Anstis – RS 1600 Gr.2

1974 – TAP Rally of Portugal

Nº 12 Chris Sclater / Neil Wilson – RS 1600 Gr.2 9th overall
Nº 34 Chris Waten / Tim Bosence – RS 1600 Gr.2 14th overall

1975 – Rally of Portugal Oporto Wine

Nº 42 Fernando Lezama / Javier Arnaiz RS 1600 Gr.2 9th overall

1976 - Rally of Portugal Oporto Wine

Nº 10 Keith Billows / Martin Holmes RS 2000 Gr.2
Nº 21 Giovanni Salvi / Pedro de Almeida RS 2000 Gr.1 7th overall

1977 - Rally of Portugal Oporto Wine

Nº 30 Giovanni Salvi / Pedro de Almeida RS 2000 Gr.1 8th overall

I have few photos from some of these cars but I’m counting on You to complete the necessary, from these and others from the period starting at 1967.

As You know the models are strictly for my private amateur collection, and, as I’ve did with the Levin, I will share with You, on the forum, photos of the finished models whenever each is completed.

Thank You very much in advance.

Best Regards.

Ciclotron

FAL

13th August 2007, 17:22

Doug Harris can be found here:
http://www.blackpalfrey.co.uk/?Club_Officials

It is Chris Wathen (not Waten). I think both Wathen and Norman Anstis were in blue and orange "Vospers of Plymouth" cars.

It is also John Jenson.

FAL

13th August 2007, 17:30

kabouter

13th August 2007, 20:54

It is also John Jenson.

Could that be this John Jensen: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=profile&driverid=10371 ?

FAL

13th August 2007, 21:43

jirka rk

14th August 2007, 10:17

Hi I have found some ERC results we discussed about :
ERC 2 - Pneumant ( DDR ) 18.-21.3.1970
1.Hommel / BorkDDRWartburg 311
2.Smorawinski / Zembrzuski PLBMW 2002
3.Gilber Casseljo / C. OlssonSFord Capri
4.Strelow / Malsch Wartburg 311
5.Asmus / Piehler Trabant
6.Nowicki / Komorowski PLRenault 8 Gordini
7.Nielsen / Lind-Isaaksen BMW 2002
8.Ullmann / Lange Trabant
9.F.Kramer / G. KramerTrabant
10.E. Ehrlich / D.SchoneWartburg 311

ERC 4 - Elba Rally ( I ) 2.-3.4.1971
1.Luciano Trombotto / M.Enrico IFiat 124 Spider
2.F.Tecilla / S.LipizierIFiat 125 S
3.Giulio Bisulli / A.ZanuccoliIFiat 125 S
4.Taufer / Bond Porsche 911 S
5.Bossetti / Mischiatti ALancia Fulvia HF 1600
6.Sonda / Bertollo IFiat 125 S
7.Arnaldo Cavallari / Simoni ILancia Fulvia HF 1600
8.Bossetti / Ferrari ILancia Fulvia HF 1600
9.Carello / Oberti IFiat 124 Spider
10.Maurizio Verini / Piazza IFiat 124 Spider

ERC 7 - ELBA ( I )6.-8.4.
1.L.Trombotto / M.EnricoIFiat 124 Spider
2.S.Barbasio / P.Sodano ILancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
3.H.Källström / G.Häggbom SLancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
4.Verini / QuarantaIFiat 124 Spider
5.Janger / WessiakVW 1302 S
6.Tominz / ,,Squaw"IFiat 124 Spider
7.Franco Ceccato / BertolloIFiat 128
8.Bossetti / BoccaLancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
9.Besozzi / BrusatiLancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
10.Tony Carello / ObertiLancia Fulvia 1,6 HF

ERC 21 - Sachs Baltic ( D )28.8.-1.9.
1.Reinhard Hainbach / Gerd WiesnieuwskiDFord Capri RS
2.Jensen / EisenbergDKToyota Corolla
3.Kristensen / ToudalDKBMW 2002 Tii
4.Berth / Winther NielsenDKBMW 2002 Tii
5.Jan Glad / GladDKOpel Commodore GS/E
6.Christensen / SidorencoDKToyota Celica GT
7.Kelle Moller / Jensen DKBMW 2002 Tii
8.Johannes Schnoor / Blöcher DBMW 1602
9.Bindner / Andreasen Opel Ascona 1.9 SR
10.Hans Brith / Fergus SagerFiat 124 ST

jrally

14th August 2007, 14:16

Does anyone knows the final times from 4th to 10 of Rallye YU 1993 ?

and the final position and final time of François Koopal in Golden Tulip 85 ?

Thanks
jorge

kabouter

14th August 2007, 14:22

and the final position and final time of François Koopal in Golden Tulip 85 ?

Thanks
jorge

I think you mean Golden Tulip 1995? One of those eternal mysteries :(

jrally

14th August 2007, 14:54

I think you mean Golden Tulip 1995? One of those eternal mysteries :(

Yes, Tjeerd ! Golden Tulip 95 !

Regards
jorge

Juha

19th August 2007, 02:38

[quote="kabouter"]I'm sorry, my best guess is that it's Gerard De Boeck, possibly with a codriver named Conings, but I can't find any confirmation.[quote]
It's Geert de Boeck, he's mentioned in of the rallyworld annuals.

I'll have a look for the results next week, I'm a bit busy now with the rally of Germany. :D

jrally

22nd August 2007, 14:14

Someone knows their names :

1989 - Hebros - Helmut Schwab-???? Werderich
1989 - Hebros - A??? Karklinsh-???? Gauja
1989 - Gunayidin - Andrej Geransenkov-???? Djaminov
1988 - Bianchi - ???? Lux-???? Claes
1987 - Lavantaller - J???? Winkler-E???? Winkler
1987 - Piancavallo - Massimo Piacentini-???? Dorigo
1987 - Asturias - Roland Holke-J??? Eriguren
1987 - Cataluña - Jordi Griño-A???? Estruch

Thanks in advance
Regards
jorge

Juha

22nd August 2007, 16:54

1-2 maggio 1987
4° Rally de Wallonie

3. Bernt-Inge Steffansson - Matti Hakala (Volvo 240 Turbo)

Bernt without a D and Steffansson with double F.

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7-8 febbraio 1987
30° Boucles de Spa

fia european rally championship - coeff. 2

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30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
3° Rally de Wallonie

3. Mauro (not Mario) Panontin - Mauro Ferfoglia (Lancia 037 Rally)

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29-31 maggio 1987 (you've got the wrong date)
Haspengouw Rally

fia european rally championship - coeff. 1

Results:
2. Bernt-Inge Steffansson - Matti Hakala(Volvo 240 Turbo)

Juha

22nd August 2007, 16:59

29-31 maggio 1987
Haspengouw Rally

fia european rally championship - coeff. 1

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten
2. Bernt-Inge Steffansson - Matti Hakala
6. Mohammed Bin Sulayem - John Spiller
8. Jan Vandenberge

Juha

22nd August 2007, 17:07

30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
3° Rally de Wallonie

Results:
3. Mauro Panontin - Mauro Ferfoglia (Lancia 037 Rally)

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11-13 marzo 1988
38° Circuit des Ardennes

fia european rally championship - Not counting for ERC

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (M3)
2. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Sierra Cosworth)
3. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer - Yves Bozet (Sierra Cosworth)

Juha

22nd August 2007, 17:11

9- 10 aprile 1988
Belgium

Results:
1. Paul Lietaer - Herman De Maegd (Manta 400)
2. Thierry Reginster - Georges Biar (911)
3. Jean-Marc Gaban - ? Lintermans (911)

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26-27 marzo 1988
Belgium

Rally de Hannut
Results:
1. Paul Lietaer - Herman De Maegd (Manta 400)
2. Thierry Reginster - Georges Biar (911)
3. Jean-Marc Gaban - ? Lintermans (911)

(resultats for TAC and Hannut are identical)

ern

23rd August 2007, 07:25

30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
3° Rally de Wallonie

Results:
3. Mauro Panontin - Mauro Ferfoglia (Lancia 037 Rally)

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11-13 marzo 1988
38° Circuit des Ardennes

fia european rally championship - Not counting for ERC

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (M3)
2. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Sierra Cosworth)
3. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer - Yves Bozet (Sierra Cosworth)

The name is Mario Panontin not Mauro

kabouter

23rd August 2007, 09:45

jrally

23rd August 2007, 14:01

It's Mario, for sure !

Regards
jorge

ern

23rd August 2007, 17:15

jrally

23rd August 2007, 21:05

Thanks for clarify this issue, ern !

regards
jorge

Juha

23rd August 2007, 21:23

kabouter

24th August 2007, 15:15

I'ts Mario for sure.
Mario is a friend that unfortunately I do not see from many years..

If you are sure that it's your friend that competed in those Belgian rallies in 1986, than the case is closed :) Thank you very much for posting on this forum and clarifying the issue.

Infiniti

28th August 2007, 22:02

Were these rallies selected for ERC 1972, or were they cancelled.
Otherwise does anyone have the results 1-10.

ERC 6 – Circuit of Ireland 31 March-4 April
ERC 9 - Deutschland Rallye 26-28 May
ERC 10 – Rally de Geneve 25-29 May
ERC 16 - Donau Rally 10-12 August

Thanks.

Piet

januszsz

30th August 2007, 18:05

Were these rallies selected for ERC 1972, or were they cancelled.
Otherwise does anyone have the results 1-10.

ERC 6 – Circuit of Ireland 31 March-4 April
ERC 9 - Deutschland Rallye 26-28 May
ERC 10 – Rally de Geneve 25-29 May
ERC 16 - Donau Rally 10-12 August

Thanks.

Piet

It looks not any of those rallies was a paert of ERC'72.

Regads

Janusz